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What is up with this "Vintage" Mustang?

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:05 pm
by taylornutt
http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/msg/3140150436.html

I saw this really cool vintage Mustang guitar on CL and then I saw a picture of the bridge. I didn't know what to make of it. It's like they made an acoustic saddle out of metal and swapped it out for the regular Mustang bridge.

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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:08 pm
by Concretebadger
I can't think why anyone would do that...certainly no reason that could justify making it impossible to intonate the strings accurately. Weird.

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:09 pm
by rps-10
Looks like a cut down version of one of those pieces of crap bridges you get on crap Kay guitars.

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:13 pm
by stewart
He's neglected to mention the shitty refin, by the looks of things.

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:27 pm
by sholkham
Didn't older Gretsch guitars use to have a bridge like that?

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:31 pm
by Concretebadger
I just noticed: are the strings fitted wrong as well? I thought they were threaded through the stopbar from the headstock end and wrapped under?

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:55 pm
by DanHeron
Concretebadger wrote:I just noticed: are the strings fitted wrong as well? I thought they were threaded through the stopbar from the headstock end and wrapped under?
Yep, they're wrong.
Looks dodgy.

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:13 pm
by Ankhanu
DanHeron wrote:Looks dodgy.
Nah, it's got the wah wah handle, it's totes legit.

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:16 pm
by laterallateral
Seller McClownshoes wrote: Not a roadworn reissue wanna be.
Ironic bald faced lie, it's not only been refinned but also reliced... Like an imitation Roadworn series.
Seller McClownshoes wrote:this is the real deal. This is real as it gets
That much emphasis on authenticity is genreally an indication of the oposite.
Seller McClownshoes wrote:Plays like butter
Yeah butter that rings E open and E# fretted

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:19 pm
by taylornutt
Concretebadger wrote:I just noticed: are the strings fitted wrong as well? I thought they were threaded through the stopbar from the headstock end and wrapped under?
They are strung incorrectly. If the seller can't string the guitar or put the proper bridge on the guitar, what else is wrong with it? You notice the seller does not have a buy option, only trade.

It makes me think the seller is either totally ignorant about Mustangs or is trying to score a sweet trade on a faked vintage Mustang.

There is some finish checking on the nut and the tuners appear vintage. I wonder if someone found a bunch of vintage parts, made or refined the body. The funny part about the back of the body is there is no buckle rash.

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:01 pm
by BartMan
stewart wrote:He's neglected to mention the shitty refin, by the looks of things.
This. Bad relic job too.
laterallateral wrote: That much emphasis on authenticity is genreally an indication of the oposite.
True that.

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:23 pm
by Fran
rps-10 wrote:Looks like a cut down version of one of those pieces of crap bridges you get on crap Kay guitars.

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:38 pm
by taylornutt
Is that even the correct shade of white for a vintage Mustang? It should be more yellowed because of the nitro finish. That looks like Alpine White like you see on a Squier Super-Sonic.

There is absolutely no checking in the body finish. It looks flat almost like no gloss or satin finished.

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Maybe I should contact the seller and offer to trade my Squier Pink Hello Kitty Guitar? If he complains my offer isn't realistic, I can at least say my guitar is all original. :o

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:10 am
by Ankhanu
taylornutt wrote:Is that even the correct shade of white for a vintage Mustang?
No, not even close... and yeah, it's matte as shit.
taylornutt wrote:Maybe I should contact the seller and offer to trade my Squier Pink Hello Kitty Guitar? If he complains my offer isn't realistic, I can at least say my guitar is all original. :o
Then you'll be down a Hello Kitty guitar, though!

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:22 am
by Mattsican
Seems odd also he isn't selling, only trading? Like maybe he has tried to sell it before but was told to suck it or something.

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:10 pm
by NickD
taylornutt wrote: The funny part about the back of the body is there is no buckle rash.
That's not always a given with a genuinely worn finish, some have it, some don't. The checking doesn't always happen either - especially as quite a few Fender custom colours were never nitro.

It looks like it is a vintage guitar, and a fairly early one at that, but far from original. The chips out of the finish are in really daft places, where you would never get them naturally.

It's not worth the same as a Les Paul, nowhere near.

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:32 pm
by Jaded
rps-10 wrote:Looks like a cut down version of one of those pieces of crap bridges you get on crap Kay guitars.
Yep! Got the exact same bridge on a crappy Kay i was given. Very odd why someone would ever use one as a replacement.