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Bringing a Guild S300D back to life
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:41 am
by mkt3000
I just got offered a 1978 Guild S300D for $200... because a previous owner sprayed it with a rattle can. Matte black.
Anyway, I'm gonna go check out the guitar at some point this week. The seller claims that the original satin walnut finish is intact underneath, and that it should be pretty easy to refurb.
I know that the method to remove it varies on the type of paint applied and the finish underneath. Does anyone have any basic pointers, etc, so that I know what I'm getting into should I decide to buy (ie- I don't want another money pit like my 67 Deluxe Reverb)
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:56 am
by HNB
If you use 1000 sandpaper, you should be able to carefully sand off the paint. I wouldn't use chemicals or heat because it could/would mess up the paint under the stuff you want off.
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:31 am
by Joey
Any idea what the original finish is?
You can try sanding, wet sanding, buffing and scrubbing (fine steel wool) with chemicals. Light/Heavy.... naphtha, xylene, mineral spirits, lacquer thinner and acetone. If it's a lacquer finish, obviously stay away from it with lacquer thinner and acetone. You might get away with just regular ol' Goof Off.
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:42 am
by cobascis
Fucking DIBS if you sell it.
I played at 78 Guild S60d today at the local music store. Nearly the same guitar as what you're looking at... They want around 600$ for it. Body shape was sweet and it played awesome.
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:23 am
by DasBeef
At that price BUY IT!!!!!!!
As long as there's nothing else seriously wrong with it of course.
I have an S-70 and it's a brilliant guitar. I also have an S-100, and S-90 which are all ace!
Actually, here's a photae....
![Image](http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f360/DasBeef/a9486b8a.jpg)
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:15 pm
by mkt3000
So it turns out that the seller had already offered the guitar to a mutual friend of ours for an even lower price ($175), but my friend said no. I told him to check it out for me... and he's gonna do it. He's gonna call him back to bring it by his work tonight, and he's gonna put it through its paces. He's someone I trust, so if he says it's good, it's good. I gave him the $175 cash to buy it for me.
And then I called a local tech... if the damage is only limited to the body, and not the neck, he'll take off the rattle can finish and the polish original one for $50. If it includes the neck, $80. So then it's just a matter of resoldering it after that
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:20 pm
by HNB
Sounds like a possible great deal and a killer price for that kind of work. (In my opinion.)
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 6:21 pm
by Joey
Great deal on both sides
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:32 pm
by mkt3000
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:58 am
by DGNR8
That's not even a bad job at that, from what I can see. I had a super easy time using a binding scraper to get rattle can off of few times, but it depends on what kind and how thick. My Wildwood had a thin coat of white on it. Easiest paint removal ever.
Guilds were well made. Super score.
SCRAPER
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:54 pm
by mkt3000
AAAAAAAAND.... the final (awesome) update.
She is mine. Well, "mine". My friend convinced the seller to fix it and sell it for $200
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
It should be in my hands this weekend, so no project- just an awesome vintage guitar that's ready to play (and then time for me decide which of my guitars has to go)
And then, the NGD thread shall commence.
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:45 pm
by cur
Make it PANK.
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:50 pm
by Awstin
Leave it. It looks good as it is and it will be a giant bitch to get that original finish back even if it is possible.
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:05 pm
by DasBeef
Jelly. That is awesome. I was eyeing an S-300AD for £600 which was a good enough deal.
Great pickups in these as well. Welcome to the vintage Guild club! You'll get info at
LetsTalkGuild
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:31 pm
by mkt3000
Small update... the seller contacted me last night, and told me the paint is off, and the guitar and hardware have all been polished. He says it looks like a new guitar. I should get it tonight or tomorrow.
He's going to put the hardware back on, and will leave it to me to resolder the electronics.
If he didn't lie to me, it should hopefully look something like this:
![Image](http://i.imgur.com/aOiFu.jpg)
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:02 pm
by speedfish
mkt3000 wrote:Small update... the seller contacted me last night, and told me the paint is off, and the guitar and hardware have all been polished. He says it looks like a new guitar. I should get it tonight or tomorrow.
He's going to put the hardware back on, and will leave it to me to resolder the electronics.
If he didn't lie to me, it should hopefully look something like this:
![Image](http://i.imgur.com/aOiFu.jpg)
I am dying to know how he removed the paint without destroying the finish underneath. I would be grateful if you could find out how he did it and let us know.
Thanks,
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:04 pm
by mkt3000
speedfish wrote:mkt3000 wrote:Small update... the seller contacted me last night, and told me the paint is off, and the guitar and hardware have all been polished. He says it looks like a new guitar. I should get it tonight or tomorrow.
He's going to put the hardware back on, and will leave it to me to resolder the electronics.
If he didn't lie to me, it should hopefully look something like this:
I am dying to know how he removed the paint without destroying the finish underneath. I would be grateful if you could find out how he did it and let us know.
Thanks,
I am curious as well. When he drops off the guitar, I'll ask him.
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:07 pm
by mkt3000
An update... still haven't gotten the guitar back since I had to head to San Juan yesterday to deal with some family issues, but he did tell me what he did.
Because it was a shitty rattle can finish, he was able to get it off fairly easily. He completely took off all the hardware/electronics, and went to town with high grit sandpaper and water to take off the rattle can finish, and then he went over it with automotive rubbing compound and polish. That was all he needed.
I really cannot wait to get back to the west half of PR to get that damn guitar wired and playing
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:20 pm
by theshadowofseattle
That guitar is gorgeous! Awesome
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:55 am
by mkt3000