Is the Squier VM Mustang worth the £255 you pay for it?
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:11 pm
by ZombieLloyd
Basically, I only have around £260 to spend on a guitar at the end of the month and I've never tried a Squier or a Mustang before. I have a Fender Strat (not sure which model because it was given to me by my brother) that I really like. I play grunge (Nirvana or Mudhoney style) and metal. I got a guitar to play metal on for christmas and i'm looking for my next grunge guitar. I've heard some good things and some bad things about this so I thought I'd come here for a definitive yes or no. Thanks in advance for reading and posting.
Also would I be able to make a separate thread asking for someone to swap the bridge pickup when I get it? I would pay if necessary unless there is a rule I didn't read.
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:24 pm
by othomas2
If you feel the mustang itself is a good option for you then I wouldn't hesitate.
One thing I was really concerned about these were the quality of the fretwork and sharp edges. Turns out that's probably one of the best parts about it. It has a chunkier neck which you may or may not like. I don't usually, but it feels good.
My biggest hates have been the bridge, and I didn't have enough patience to tinker with the tremolo.... so I swapped these out, flipped the tremolo, along with a pickup swap. Quite unintentionally Kurty.
BUT remember, this'll all add up the expenses.
When I got it there were some grounding issues which I resolved myself... so if there's more that one compare them to find a quiet one.
Ultimately though you should try and play one somewhere... to see if YOU like it. Some reports of bad neck pockets, spots in the paint work, bad fitting. But like any guitar, you get good and bad ones.
Mine plays as well as my Japanese Jag now, which I've spent years tinkering with.
The original pickups are pretty hot. A member here measured the bridge p/up at around 12k which is crazy, so you might find they work for you just fine.
I'm pleased with mine, and don't envisage selling it. Really having lots of fun with it, which I've failed to do with more expensive and custom built guitars.
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:34 pm
by ZombieLloyd
othomas2 wrote:If you feel the mustang itself is a good option for you then I wouldn't hesitate.
One thing I was really concerned about these were the quality of the fretwork and sharp edges. Turns out that's probably one of the best parts about it. It has a chunkier neck which you may or may not like. I don't usually, but it feels good.
My biggest hates have been the bridge, and I didn't have enough patience to tinker with the tremolo.... so I swapped these out, flipped the tremolo, along with a pickup swap. Quite unintentionally Kurty.
BUT remember, this'll all add up the expenses.
When I got it there were some grounding issues which I resolved myself... so if there's more that one compare them to find a quiet one.
Ultimately though you should try and play one somewhere... to see if YOU like it. Some reports of bad neck pockets, spots in the paint work, bad fitting. But like any guitar, you get good and bad ones.
Mine plays as well as my Japanese Jag now, which I've spent years tinkering with.
The pickups are pretty hot. A member here measured the bridge p/up at around 12k which is crazy, so you might find they work for you.
I'm pleased with mine, and don't envisage selling it. Really having lots of fun with it.
Firstly: I'd be too afraid of screwing up the guitar to change even one pickup. Secondly: The bridge is the one complaint I've heard the most so I'm expecting that haha. Finally: I'm in wales, I'm 17 and the nearest guitar shop is an hour away. I'm not even sure they have this so I just have Shortscale's word for it. Thank you for your response
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:44 pm
by othomas2
I work in a guitar shop and travel an 1hr15 each way, 4 times a week.
Well, online... you have a 2 week clause to send it back if it's not suitable, or you just don't want it... and money back without question. I think shipping back would be covered if it wasn't fit for purpose.
A mustang bridge is bit more and shouldn't be too expensive, especially used. Slight radius mismatch though. Really easy to swap over so shouldn't daunt you at all... just drop straight in.
Alternatively, some loctite on the threads where they anchor and on the saddles... would much improve it I suspect.
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:03 pm
by ZombieLloyd
othomas2 wrote:I work in a guitar shop and travel an 1hr15 each way, 4 times a week.
Well, online... you have a 2 week clause to send it back if it's not suitable, or you just don't want it... and money back without question. I think shipping back would be covered if it wasn't fit for purpose.
A mustang bridge is bit more and shouldn't be too expensive, especially used. Slight radius mismatch though. Really easy to swap over so shouldn't daunt you at all... just drop straight in.
Alternatively, some loctite on the threads where they anchor and on the saddles... would much improve it I suspect.
I'll have to wait a while for the new bridge but until then I can use the bridge it comes with. Also, that was your job and I can't drive yet.
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:42 am
by Silenus
Looks good.
Where did you order the bridge ?
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:50 am
by ZombieLloyd
Silenus wrote:Looks good.
Where did you order the bridge ?
I can't buy diddly until the end of the month so nowhere for now but andertons should have it in stock soon
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:14 pm
by honeyiscool
What bridge does it come with? Is it Tune-O-Matic style or did you have to drill for it?
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:07 am
by Ankhanu
honeyiscool wrote:What bridge does it come with? Is it Tune-O-Matic style or did you have to drill for it?
Pretty sure it's a standard Mustang bridge, isn't it?
Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:42 am
by Sobriquet
honeyiscool wrote:What bridge does it come with? Is it Tune-O-Matic style or did you have to drill for it?
It has Jag/Jazz saddles because of the neck radius.
Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:49 am
by Mike
Actually it doesnt
They have grub screws but aren't like the jag or jazz models, they have one groove rather than many
Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:09 am
by Sobriquet
Mike wrote:Actually it doesnt
They have grub screws but aren't like the jag or jazz models, they have one groove rather than many
Oh, really? So they're kind of like the Warmoth modified Mustang bridge? Are all the saddles the same size?
edit: I just looked at a big picture. It seems they've actually made new saddles for this. Fender's all like "we machined new parts for the '65 AVs so the price is $800 more than the AVRIs!" And Squier is all like "whatevs."
Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:13 am
by Concretebadger
Sobriquet wrote:
Mike wrote:Actually it doesnt
They have grub screws but aren't like the jag or jazz models, they have one groove rather than many
Oh, really? So they're kind of like the Warmoth modified Mustang bridge? Are all the saddles the same size?
edit: I just looked at a big picture. It seems they've actually made new saddles for this. Fender's all like "we machined new parts for the '65 AVs so the price is $800 more than the AVRIs!" And Squier is all like "whatevs."
In their defence, Squier are probably selling more VMs than Fender are selling '65 RIs so economy of scale is on Squier's side. I reckon the OP wouldn't go wrong getting one of these, as long as he keeps the receipt just in case!
Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 4:04 pm
by paul_
Sobriquet wrote: It seems they've actually made new saddles for this. Fender's all like "we machined new parts for the '65 AVs so the price is $800 more than the AVRIs!" And Squier is all like "whatevs."
They used the Fender MIM Blacktop Jazzmaster bridge, which is probably cheap generic Asian fare. They also used generic Jag/Jazzmaster/Mustang tailpieces that have been around in Japan for like 20+ years, and on the DiPinto Galaxie/Xavier JMs, etc... Squier don't make stuff like that themselves.
Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 11:29 pm
by ZombieLloyd
paul_ wrote:
Sobriquet wrote: It seems they've actually made new saddles for this. Fender's all like "we machined new parts for the '65 AVs so the price is $800 more than the AVRIs!" And Squier is all like "whatevs."
They used the Fender MIM Blacktop Jazzmaster bridge, which is probably cheap generic Asian fare. They also used generic Jag/Jazzmaster/Mustang tailpieces that have been around in Japan for like 20+ years, and on the DiPinto Galaxie/Xavier JMs, etc... Squier don't make stuff like that themselves.
What guitar is in the second picture?
Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 11:33 pm
by Mo Law-ka
Dipinto Galaxie
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:32 am
by paul_
The Jaguar was a Jazzmaster redesigned for surf.
The Galaxie is a Jazzmaster redesigned for even more surf.
Wave of the Future.
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:18 am
by Sobriquet
paul_ wrote:
Sobriquet wrote: It seems they've actually made new saddles for this. Fender's all like "we machined new parts for the '65 AVs so the price is $800 more than the AVRIs!" And Squier is all like "whatevs."
They used the Fender MIM Blacktop Jazzmaster bridge, which is probably cheap generic Asian fare. They also used generic Jag/Jazzmaster/Mustang tailpieces that have been around in Japan for like 20+ years, and on the DiPinto Galaxie/Xavier JMs, etc... Squier don't make stuff like that themselves.
Ah, OK. That makes a lot more sense.
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:48 pm
by xrleroyx
I didn't like mine. There were a host of problems. I eventually sold it. I couldn't fix what I needed to on it. It all happened quick too. Fretting out, bridge breaking, etc... sold it locally cheap
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:49 pm
by gusman2x
Haven't played a VM mustang, but I've got a VM jag. Very very good for the money, but not in the same league as mij in my opinion
If you can hang out (and save more) for a mij mustang, that's what I'd do.