Is there any better value reverb pedal than...

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:51 pm

..the Behringer reverb machine?

I need a decent inexpensive reverb handle pedal and can pick one of these up for 30 quid. Read good stuff about them....but is there anything that beats it in the bang-for-bucks department?

benecol · Post by **benecol** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:54 pm

It's one of the best pedals I've ever owned. If you don't like it, I will refund your money whilst shaking my head at you and tutting.

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:56 pm

Tim, I trust your gear knowledge implicitly. Thread over!

NickS · Post by **NickS** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:58 pm

Don't forget the VAT....

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:02 pm

NickS wrote:Don't forget the VAT....

VAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:16 pm

The old rackmount stuff like Microverbs I like the best, pedals always seem to fall short in the reverb department and I dont know why. The Zoom 507 was reasonably good but still nothing like the rackmounts. You can pick some of them up quite cheaply second hand.

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:27 pm

Interesting point Fran. I know zero about how they create digital reverbs and with that noob caveat, an open question: would the older rack stuff not have been improved on my newer technologies like modelling etc? Or is digital reverb technology essentially the same as for the last 20 years and therefore old rack mount stuff would be better due to higher quality parts? Or something else entirely! Is there a particular unit you'd recommend?

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:18 pm

I assume because that stuff was intended for studio use the result was higher quality with way more options (or tweakability at least). Pedals in general are more limited than studio effects and have simplicity by design in mind for obvious reasons.
Modelling has moved things on a lot (even though it is based on copying the past), but again, what a manufacturer thinks a musician wants on stage is different to what a sound engineer wants in a recording studio. A pedal will most likely always be a more simplified version.

Alesis units are really good (microverb, midiverb..), Lexicon, Zoom etc. Worth checking youtube demos out

MrJamesBrown · Post by **MrJamesBrown** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:32 pm

The Digiverb? The Behringet stuff is kinda shoddily built...

Gabriel · Post by **Gabriel** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:33 pm

Oh the Alesis stuff is awesome. I really like the nanoverb, especially the nanoverb 2. Also the picoverb is great.

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:36 pm

Get a Marshall Reflector, it has six modes:

1. Shit
2. Garbage
3. Mediocre
4. Substandard
5. Unusable
6. Reverse Shit

Nah, thats a bit harsh of me, it is usable on some settings.

johnnyseven · Post by **johnnyseven** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:57 pm

Fran wrote:Alesis units are really good (microverb, midiverb..), Lexicon, Zoom etc. Worth checking youtube demos out

The Digitech Hardwire has Lexicon reverbs. The one I had sounded really good but I tend to get bored of reverb pedals quickly and sell them, I prefer delay. You may not get the Hardwire that cheap though so the Behringer may be the way to go although the Marshall Reflector I had did sound pretty good and can be had for cheaps.

mastermorya · Post by **mastermorya** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:26 am

Behringer reverb machine is a decent pedal. I like it a lot. More versatile than the RV-5 but the RV-5 wins on modulated reverb. I have a Supernatural and I'm keeping it for now, for the weird stuff, but I do want a Quadraverb like the business.

lorez · Post by **lorez** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:32 am

the behringer is great for the price and I love mine. also check out the TC Electronics Hall of Fame and the Digitech RV7

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:07 am

lorez wrote:the behringer is great for the price and I love mine. also check out the TC Electronics Hall of Fame and the Digitech RV7

Chris, if you HAD to choose one of those three what would you go for and why?

My uses are essentially to give a bit of reverb to my HT-5 amp (no reverb!) to make low volume playing sound a bit less stark, but also want all teh fun stuff to play with too (TEH SPACE NOISE)

ekwatts · Post by **ekwatts** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:21 am

I have one of these:

lorez · Post by **lorez** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:25 am

Dave wrote:
lorez wrote:the behringer is great for the price and I love mine. also check out the TC Electronics Hall of Fame and the Digitech RV7
Chris, if you HAD to choose one of those three what would you go for and why?

My uses are essentially to give a bit of reverb to my HT-5 amp (no reverb!) to make low volume playing sound a bit less stark, but also want all teh fun stuff to play with too (TEH SPACE NOISE)

reverb machine because of the cost. it has a lot of interesting settings and is a clone of the line 6 verbzilla. if i had the cash then it would be a toss up of the other 2. I think for your needs then the reverb machine will suit you perfectly for the time being

sp3k · Post by **sp3k** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:59 pm

I had the line6 verbzilla and it was really good, the behringer is a clone.

I've had the marshall, digiverb, verbzilla and the ehx cathedrall.
The ehx is far superior. The verbzilla sounds has good, but can't do has much stuff.
I remember not liking the marshall that much.
The digiverb sounds really good, and cheap. But for that price, I would get the behringer.

Btw, I've had tons of gear in the past, and none of the behringer gear has ever had a problem.

lorez · Post by **lorez** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:13 pm

going back to frans comments on the rack stuff I've contemplated it but I don't have space. I have though been messing about with vst reverbs and delays on the computer when recording ideas and they definitely offer a lot of flexibility over the pedals. But like you said dave you want it to add that bit of space while playing the HT5 so something with a good spring reverb should suffice.

benecol · Post by **benecol** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:48 pm

Had the Behringer and the Spring King, have played the Hardwire. And the Verbzilla is in the M13.

BUY THE BEHRINGER.

Many Verbzilla owners feel that Behringer actually improved on the original with their clone.