I stumbled upon this video this morning of the Pumpkins on a cable access show in 1988, and Billy's playing a Mustang. I've never seen him play one before, so I thought it was pretty interesting. Sorry if this has been posted before.
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:54 pm
by George
I can't listen at work but I'm guessing this is when they were ripping off the pixies?
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:57 pm
by dren68
Sounds more like the Cure. A LOT of chorus.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:16 pm
by Paradigmforcosmos
Sound rather new wave. Is the before he got the 70's strat that was later stolen?
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:09 pm
by robroe
i turned it off when he broke out the E BOW
that was like a minute in
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:18 pm
by HNB
I remember reading somewhere that he stopped using a Mustang because critics kept accusing him of trying to emulate Kurt Cobain or something. (Which still happens to people when they put a humbucker in a Mustang or play agressive rock on a Mustang.)
He has teh kurdtz...
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:43 pm
by MrJamesBrown
I was mesmerized by this. In a "wow the Pumpkins really did used to suck" kinda way. Gives me hope!!
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:46 pm
by stewart
the second song wasn't bad. JC120s were pretty ubiquitous around then, that guitar sound was everywhere.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:27 pm
by dren68
HNB wrote:I remember reading somewhere that he stopped using a Mustang because critics kept accusing him of trying to emulate Kurt Cobain or something. (Which still happens to people when they put a humbucker in a Mustang or play agressive rock on a Mustang.)
He has teh kurdtz...
I've never heard that story. Makes sense, though. I was surprised when I saw it just because Billy's such a tall guy. I never thought he'd like Mustangs. That, and the fact that almost every time you see him, he's playing a strat.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:30 pm
by dren68
MrJamesBrown wrote:I was mesmerized by this. In a "wow the Pumpkins really did used to suck" kinda way. Gives me hope!!
Yeah, they definitely don't sound like the same band that wrote 'I Am One' or 'Cherub Rock' here. I've only made it to the third song, but mostly clean tones so far.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:56 pm
by BoringPostcards
dren68 wrote:
MrJamesBrown wrote:I was mesmerized by this. In a "wow the Pumpkins really did used to suck" kinda way. Gives me hope!!
Yeah, they definitely don't sound like the same band that wrote 'I Am One' or 'Cherub Rock' here. I've only made it to the third song, but mostly clean tones so far.
It gets louder and more distorted and heavier from the middle of the set towards the end. Some really good riffs. Billy even shreds at one point. Sounds vicious on the Stang. Thanks for posting.
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:49 pm
by speedfish
I recall seeing them back then and thinking that they were alot older, but they were just kids. Funny how our perspective changes with time.
Thanks!
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:07 am
by singlepup
Paradigmforcosmos wrote:Sound rather new wave. Is the before he got the 70's strat that was later stolen?
This video has been posted before but it's particularly useful in this thread. From 1:08 Billy tells the story of how the Mustang was his first "real" guitar and why he eventually abandoned it for the Strat. Chamberlin* sold him the 70's strat he got famous playing... probably wasn't too long after the OP's video was made.
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*Speaking of Chamberlin, what's up with that mullet?
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:14 am
by singlepup
Also this... I used to trade Pumpkins bootlegs in the 90's and this was one of their first demos apparently. Gives some context for their early sound.
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:19 am
by singlepup
Now I got Chamberlin on the brain. This video is sweet.
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:38 am
by frettedlefty
I honestly had to ask myself if D'arcy or that mustang was sexier. Fuck man, haven't gotten laid in over a month.
But I love that guitar.
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:49 am
by paul_
lol @ how chamberlain can't seem to wrap his head around 4/4 shit.
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:30 pm
by dren68
singlepickup24 wrote:
Paradigmforcosmos wrote:Sound rather new wave. Is the before he got the 70's strat that was later stolen?
This video has been posted before but it's particularly useful in this thread. From 1:08 Billy tells the story of how the Mustang was his first "real" guitar and why he eventually abandoned it for the Strat. Chamberlin* sold him the 70's strat he got famous playing... probably wasn't too long after the OP's video was made.
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Cool. I hadn't seen that before.
singlepickup24 wrote:*Speaking of Chamberlin, what's up with that mullet?
LOL! Well, it was 1988. The mullet actually started out as kind of a new wave haircut in the early 80's (see Bono from Live At Red Rocks), but somehow it eventually turned into a redneck thing.
frettedlefty wrote:I honestly had to ask myself if D'arcy or that mustang was sexier.
I was thinking the same thing, but I'd have to go with D'arcy on that one.
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:32 pm
by dren68
singlepickup24 wrote:Now I got Chamberlin on the brain. This video is sweet.
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I love Jimmy. One of my all time favorite drummers. I wish they would've shown more of Geek U.S.A. That one song is a whole drum clinic.
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:07 am
by Paradigmforcosmos
singlepickup24 wrote:
Paradigmforcosmos wrote:Sound rather new wave. Is the before he got the 70's strat that was later stolen?
This video has been posted before but it's particularly useful in this thread. From 1:08 Billy tells the story of how the Mustang was his first "real" guitar and why he eventually abandoned it for the Strat. Chamberlin* sold him the 70's strat he got famous playing... probably wasn't too long after the OP's video was made.
Nice. I had seen that video before but I had totally forgotten about the mustang story.