So for uni I need to learn piano, so I'd like to get myself a keyboard to practice on. I've got a few questions I'd like to clear up before I buy one though.
Firstly, do you think I should go for 61 keys or larger? 61 keys would fit a lot easier in the poxy rooms in halls, however I'm not sure how close they'd feel to a full 88 Keyboard.
Then should I go for a USB keyboard and run Mainstage 2 or go for a stage keyboard.
Have you guys got any suggestions? Cheaper the better mind.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:18 pm
by lorez
People I spoke to said 88 key if you have space is better. As long as the action on the USB keyboard is ok and offers what you need in regards to a real piano then it should be fine.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:55 pm
by willlin
I'd always recommend 88 keys, and a weighted / semi weighted keyboard if you can afford it. Otherwise the feel is completely different and it's actually quite difficult to adapt after playing a real piano. Not sure if they still do it but there was an M Audio Pro Keys 88 keyboard which was pretty decent and not too spendy.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:38 pm
by Gabriel
I've been looking on ebay over the past couple of weeks and loads of M-audio stuff comes up, but I've been reading way too many horror stories about their products to want to buy second hand.
I think I might try to see if I can find a deal on an Akai MPK 88 as they get brilliant reviews. My friend has one too so I might see if I can get him to sell his to me .
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:07 am
by Gabriel
I just did some googling and reading on piano forums. Basically people were saying purely for learning piano an electronic piano such as the Yamaha P-35 would be a better way to learn as you won't have to worry about working with a computer and dealing with parameters such as velocity adjustment. Also if I want I can use a midi/usb cable to use the piano as a midi keyboard for other synth sounds (I'd probably get something like the Korg nanokontrol to make up for lack of faders though).
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:56 pm
by NickS
This review claims the Casio CDP-120 has better piano action.
(Or if you don't mind a static, you could buy my old Yamaha Clavinova CLP50. The piano sound's not impressive but it is a proper action. Bit of a trek to get it up there, though)
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:44 pm
by Paradigmforcosmos
I agree with everyone who says that 88 keys is the way to go, I have a keyboard with 61 keys and it's well lame.
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:32 pm
by Gabriel
Casio PX-135 looks good to and has built in USB connectivity which is cool.
I went to my local guitar shop today and tried a few. I didn't really like the action of the Yamahas but the Casios were nice.
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:38 pm
by honeyiscool
If you want it for piano, get one with 88 fully weighted keys and a built-in speaker because everything else sucks, and even a digital piano sucks compared to a real one, and as shitty as most on-board speakers are, trying to find an amp to plug into is not that great either and then you deal with sound coming out at your feet, blah blah blah, so get a cheap Yamaha digital piano or something. Most of them aren't that great, so just buy something that works. I'm not trying to be negative, it's just the truth. Trying to compare between an entry level Casio vs. an entry level Yamaha and talking about which has a better action is kinda pointless when even a $2000 Roland FP7 has terrible action compared to the cheapest upright pianos, so just find the best deal you can. Try to get the most polyphony possible, 64 is all right but more is better.
If you just want it as a keyboard, then 61 keys are a lot more practical. Also, keep in mind that non-weighted and semi-weighted actions generally are far more playable. I love a weighted action but on a sub-$2000 keyboard, I'll take a semi-weighted (especially on Korgs) or non-weighted over fully weighted any day. As far as digital pianos go, anything under $1000 is really scraping at the bottom of the heap. However, some of the semi and non weighted actions are very professional level already at under $1000. I can play a lot better on my semi-weighted Korg M50 than on a cheap digital piano... weight is important but quality of action is more important and until you get to several thousand dollars and V-Pianos, I just feel that digital pianos have seriously poor weighted action.
Lastly, get a sustain pedal and learn how to use it properly, and on that subject, don't get an X-stand. Get a good bench that is height adjustable. Don't cut corners on this stuff. Posture is everything. Without it, you risk injury.
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:20 pm
by Gabriel
Thanks for the help, a lot of good points to consider now. Luckily I'll have access to some lovely grand, baby grand and uprights when I start at the conservatoire so really this will just be for practice before I go and in my room at uni.
Polyphony is something I hadn't thought much about, a lot of the budget end keyboards and pianos only have 32 note so I'll try to find the one with the greatest number.