Rack-unit Reverb

Ankhanu · Post by **Ankhanu** » Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:50 pm

I have a Peavey T-Max bass amp, which also sounds pretty decent with guitar running through it. I've considered using it for both guitar and bass in shows, as hauling around two amps sucks, but, reverb an a fairly important part of my guitar (and bass VI) sound, so I want it in my amp. The T-Max has an effects loop, and takes up 2 units in a rack case... I'm looking for a cheap and good single (maybe double) unit rack reverb to complement the amp. I'm not really sure where to even start my research on rack effects and which are worth getting... I need your experience, Shortscale!!

Looking for:
- Cheap
- Single rack space
- Good long-spring emulation
- Other settings
- Reverse reverb would be a bonus.

Gabriel · Post by **Gabriel** » Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:51 pm

Alesis and Lexicon are the likely recommendations I guess. Yamaha also made some cool stuff.

plaidbeer · Post by **plaidbeer** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:35 am

I don't know of any rack that has ever had a decent spring reverb imitation.

Alesis Midiverb II is usually very inexpensive and sounds good. Found mine on Craigslist for $25. It's got your reverse reverb.

The Lexicon MXP-100 I had didn't sound bad, either and they should be easy to find used. You might keep an eye out on a Lexicon Reflex, too.

You may be able to find a Lexicon LXP-15 II if you're lucky. I sorta regret not keeping mine around.

All of these should be well under $100, except for the LXP-15 II which should be right around $100.

Ankhanu · Post by **Ankhanu** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:50 am

Thanks, great starting points for my research

Gabriel · Post by **Gabriel** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:00 am

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much- ... unted.html

That thread should be useful.

NickS · Post by **NickS** » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:03 pm

Build one.
Circuits in http://www.modkitsdiy.com/spring_reverb ... d_compared

71Smallbox · Post by **71Smallbox** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:50 pm

any of these units would fit your bill nicely:
Yamaha FX500
Yamaha SPX90
Digitech TSR24S
Alessis Midiverb II
Alessis Quadraverb

All have Reverse reverb, all of them have some great long reverbs, some spring reverb sounds and a lot more. All of these are tweakable except the Midiverb where you can only control the amount of dry/wet signal and your input and output levels. You can usually find these for cheap. I currently have all of these.

luciguci · Post by **luciguci** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:57 pm

Alternatively, you can get a Digitech Hardwire reverb. Lexicon studio reverbs in a pedal box. The spring reverb sounds great too.

71Smallbox · Post by **71Smallbox** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:05 pm

daftsupernova wrote:Alternatively, you can get a Digitech Hardwire reverb. Lexicon studio reverbs in a pedal box. The spring reverb sounds great too.

The main complaint people have with the Hardwire is that you can't get the reverse reverb 100% wet, besides that, people seem to love it. I only have the Digiverb and although it sounds ok, the volume drop on the Reverse reverb is annoying. Maybe the Hardwire would work?

luciguci · Post by **luciguci** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:38 pm

71Smallbox wrote:
daftsupernova wrote:Alternatively, you can get a Digitech Hardwire reverb. Lexicon studio reverbs in a pedal box. The spring reverb sounds great too.
The main comlaint people have with the Hardwire is that you can't get the reverse reverb 100% wet, besides that, people seem to love it. I only have the Digiverb and although it sounds ok, the volume drop on the Reverse reverb is annoying. Maybe the Hardwire would work?

Er, the reverse reverb is 100% wet all the time. I think the main complaint is that the hall reverb doesn't get 100% wet, but I've figured it out, how to get the reverb even wetter and even to 100%

For wetter reverb, I go in through input one and out through output one, and put a dummy plug in output two or go into a second amp. With the dummy plug, the reverb level gets much louder. The reverb level without the dummy plug all the way up is moved to about 1:00 with the dummy plug. NOTE: this only works with the hall reverb

For 100% wet reverb, I go through input two and out through output one. There is a large volume drop, but that is rectified a bit with the dummy plug. Still a bit quiet, but who the hell needs 100% wet reverb anyway?

71Smallbox · Post by **71Smallbox** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:53 pm

daftsupernova wrote:
71Smallbox wrote:
daftsupernova wrote:Alternatively, you can get a Digitech Hardwire reverb. Lexicon studio reverbs in a pedal box. The spring reverb sounds great too.
The main comlaint people have with the Hardwire is that you can't get the reverse reverb 100% wet, besides that, people seem to love it. I only have the Digiverb and although it sounds ok, the volume drop on the Reverse reverb is annoying. Maybe the Hardwire would work?
Er, the reverse reverb is 100% wet all the time. I think the main complaint is that the hall reverb doesn't get 100% wet, but I've figured it out, how to get the reverb even wetter and even to 100%

For wetter reverb, I go in through input one and out through output one, and put a dummy plug in output two or go into a second amp. With the dummy plug, the reverb level gets much louder. The reverb level without the dummy plug all the way up is moved to about 1:00 with the dummy plug. NOTE: this only works with the hall reverb

For 100% wet reverb, I go through input two and out through output one. There is a large volume drop, but that is rectified a bit with the dummy plug. Still a bit quiet, but who the hell needs 100% wet reverb anyway?

Cool, I have never owned one, but thats good to know that I was misinformed. If I ever pick one up, I'll try this out. I'll see if it works with the Digiverb tonight.

Ankhanu · Post by **Ankhanu** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:41 am

That's a neat idea (re: Hardwire). My original thought was to go with a pedal, but, figured I could possibly get a rack unit cheaper... and I need a rack case for my T-Max anyway, so may as well have something else to put in there with it

luciguci · Post by **luciguci** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:47 am

Grab a Hardwire used. They're usually 80-100 bucks used on guitar center.