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Celtic Bouzouki

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 3:49 pm
by FredJr
A couple of years ago I decided that I needed a different way to make some music. After some searching I came across a truly magical instrument, the Irish or Celtic Bouzouki. From what I understand, the Irish people took the Greek Bouzouki and flattened out the back creating a long scale mandolin type of instrument. There are sveral popular tunings. I tend to use GDAD and GDAE. Yes you read that right - it is a guitar tuning upside down. This took a bit of getting used to with chords, note reading etc. I also use ADAD after reading that Beth Patterson used this and it is a fabulous tuning for drones. My current instrument is a 26.5" scale Trinity College, although I would like to go with a shorter scale made by Gerandt with a 23.5" scale - pretty close to my Jaguar :D

Check out Beth Patterson:

and Dominique Riviere:

Anyway here is a pic of mine:
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Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 10:31 am
by Dave
Really nice! Don't know much about Bazoukis - would you say these are more truly a celtic traditional instrument than say a mandolin?

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 12:14 pm
by FredJr
Dave wrote:Really nice! Don't know much about Bazoukis - would you say these are more truly a celtic traditional instrument than say a mandolin?
I'm not sure about a ranking per se but I know it's used a lot as accompaniment for vocals and as a lead instrument - to my ears I hear a powerful, magical, almost addicting kind of sound - I like mandolins but the bouzouki covers all the bases from its own range thru mandola thru mandolin depending on where you capo it. Incidentally if you really want to see something amazing check this guy out:

4 balalaikas on one mandola:

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=4+b ... ORM=NVPFVR

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 12:33 pm
by laterallateral
Here's one unaccompanied.

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Definitely an interesting sounding instrument. I bet it would do really well in a Bluegrass context, full on flatpicked, Maybelle Carter style.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 12:59 pm
by FredJr
laterallateral wrote:Here's one unaccompanied.

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Definitely an interesting sounding instrument. I bet it would do really well in a Bluegrass context, full on flatpicked, Maybelle Carter style.
Lovely - working on this tune as we speak. When we go to a Renaissance fair this year, I was thinking of packing the bouzouki & playing it in the fair grounds for fun. It works well with this sort of music too :D

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 10:04 pm
by Bacchus
I think Ultra might be a mean bouzouki player.

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 11:52 pm
by ultratwin
Hehe, 23 years ago a guy signed my high school yearbook writing "To Andi, the guy who plays a mean mandolin". I'm far from well-versed in the instrument compared to when I took two years of lessons from the phenomenal EVAN MARSHALL back in middle school, but to say the least, it made picking up Irish bouzouki a very easy shift and a lot of fun.

The big inspiration for me was seeing a contemporary "Celtic" band play in Eastbourne when I visited the UK back in 1999. The Mandolin player in the group also had a gorgeous archtop 10-string(5 course) cittern made by Fylde, and the sounds he was getting were quite enamoring, with a nasal-thinbody kind of timbre yet with the chime of so many octaves together. A few years later I ended up with a 26.5" scale 'Zoook over here made by the same factory that did the Trinity College models when they were still MIK.

Runs, drones, and the like with the open tuning are fun, and if you've got a folky band with another acoustic player on board, you can sound neato and have a lot of fun both doubling and contrasting parts. If you get a long scale one, however, simply because of the huge space between frets it's easy to find yourself thinking you're George Harrison stuck in one key while playing "unlabeled world music" pentatonic melodies over drones and a few stabs at non-existant ragas. Not much more to add, they're enjoyable to have around.

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 11:51 am
by FredJr
ultratwin wrote:Runs, drones, and the like with the open tuning are fun, and if you've got a folky band with another acoustic player on board, you can sound neato and have a lot of fun both doubling and contrasting parts. If you get a long scale one, however, simply because of the huge space between frets it's easy to find yourself thinking you're George Harrison stuck in one key while playing "unlabeled world music" pentatonic melodies over drones and a few stabs at non-existant ragas. Not much more to add, they're enjoyable to have around.
Actually I employ several different tuning hi to low EADG, DADG, and DADA. I have so far dived into Irish, Normandy, standards, surf, and yes, the ever popular fun to play pseudo raga drones. I do love them all. :D

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 11:52 am
by johnnyseven
Is this the instrument that they guy in Public Image Ltd often plays?

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:08 pm
by Chris Fleming
Been meaning to make something like that. Sound great, and no need to do all the pointless carving of tops and back

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 1:53 pm
by ultratwin
I might add to this thread that it can be immensely fun getting your imaginary 'zook on by playing a mandolin through a POG with the octave down knob all the way up :D