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Making Pre-amp on Cable

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 3:18 am
by iCEByTes

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:31 am
by Sloan
koolz

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:56 am
by Doog
Reminds me of EBS amps; if you use a specific guitar lead that they make, the amp can power their pedals through the output jack, pretty neat.

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:12 am
by Mike
Doog wrote:Reminds me of EBS amps; if you use a specific guitar lead that they make, the amp can power their pedals through the output jack, pretty neat.
This is awesome. I want this. I bet you're fucked if the pedals are different polarity though (which obviously they won't do with their own pedals).

Have you guys heard about the Nano Clone and Nano Muff? They can't be daisy chained powered with other pedals as they're positive ground and ground out the power supply through the TRS jack connections with the other pedals. You have to use an individual Wall Wart for them or battery power them.


WEAK

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:45 am
by ElCapitan
dude that sucks. I thought EHX got it right this time.

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:48 pm
by Pens
Mike wrote:
Doog wrote:Reminds me of EBS amps; if you use a specific guitar lead that they make, the amp can power their pedals through the output jack, pretty neat.
This is awesome. I want this. I bet you're fucked if the pedals are different polarity though (which obviously they won't do with their own pedals).

Have you guys heard about the Nano Clone and Nano Muff? They can't be daisy chained powered with other pedals as they're positive ground and ground out the power supply through the TRS jack connections with the other pedals. You have to use an individual Wall Wart for them or battery power them.


WEAK
Damn. It is pretty stupid in this day and age to make a positive ground pedal.

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:52 pm
by Mike
PenPen wrote:
Mike wrote:
Doog wrote:Reminds me of EBS amps; if you use a specific guitar lead that they make, the amp can power their pedals through the output jack, pretty neat.
This is awesome. I want this. I bet you're fucked if the pedals are different polarity though (which obviously they won't do with their own pedals).

Have you guys heard about the Nano Clone and Nano Muff? They can't be daisy chained powered with other pedals as they're positive ground and ground out the power supply through the TRS jack connections with the other pedals. You have to use an individual Wall Wart for them or battery power them.


WEAK

Damn. It is pretty stupid in this day and age to make a positive ground pedal.

It's quite funny - they're coming off all "It's not a flaw it's a design decision!" on the HCFX forum. As far as I can remember, only the FuzzFace is +ve ground and that's so you can use PNPs...

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:52 pm
by Doog
Couldn't you just switch around the wires to the power jack inside the pedal? :| I'm not sure exactly what you mean..

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:00 pm
by Mike
Doog wrote:Couldn't you just switch around the wires to the power jack inside the pedal? :| I'm not sure exactly what you mean..
No, unfortunately that makes the Nano Clone... not work. It's not supply polarity that's the problem, the problem is that positive ground is when the positive (live) terminal is connected to the chassis, it is the ground point rather than zero volts. It makes it incompatible with other pedals on the same power supply as it grounds out the power.

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:47 pm
by Pens
Mike wrote:
PenPen wrote:
Mike wrote: This is awesome. I want this. I bet you're fucked if the pedals are different polarity though (which obviously they won't do with their own pedals).

Have you guys heard about the Nano Clone and Nano Muff? They can't be daisy chained powered with other pedals as they're positive ground and ground out the power supply through the TRS jack connections with the other pedals. You have to use an individual Wall Wart for them or battery power them.


WEAK

Damn. It is pretty stupid in this day and age to make a positive ground pedal.

It's quite funny - they're coming off all "It's not a flaw it's a design decision!" on the HCFX forum. As far as I can remember, only the FuzzFace is +ve ground and that's so you can use PNPs...
Pft. They can say whatever they want. It it completely possible to use neg ground with PNP transistors also, you just have to design it right. I honestly cannot fathom a true technical reason to "decide" on positive ground.

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:54 pm
by theshadowofseattle
Deez nuts to that shit. I had a Fuzz Face that ran fine in a daisy chain.

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:41 pm
by Mike
theshadowofseattle wrote:Deez nuts to that shit. I had a Fuzz Face that ran fine in a daisy chain.
It won't have been an original FF design then.

It's a crappy excuse.

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:18 pm
by theshadowofseattle
It was a Dunlop reissue.

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:33 pm
by Pens
theshadowofseattle wrote:It was a Dunlop reissue.
Those are crap.

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 3:14 am
by iCEByTes
i guess i will do a "headbanger" Headphone Amp
dont sounds impossible i think i can do

its improve volume , Quality , bass , midles , low's

http://www.minidisc.org/headbanger.html

its good idea ???

my headphone have very clean sound , its a phillips but dont have volume

off ....
found cool method to do p.c.b's
http://www.inape.org.br/circuito.html

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:38 am
by Mike
theshadowofseattle wrote:It was a Dunlop reissue.
Clearly not positive ground then.

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 2:31 pm
by theshadowofseattle
Mike wrote:
theshadowofseattle wrote:It was a Dunlop reissue.
Clearly not positive ground then.
You weren't very specific then. You said "Fuzz Faces."

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 2:31 pm
by Mike
theshadowofseattle wrote:
Mike wrote:
theshadowofseattle wrote:It was a Dunlop reissue.
Clearly not positive ground then.
You weren't very specific then. You said "Fuzz Faces."
I also said original Fuzz Faces.

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 2:34 pm
by theshadowofseattle
Mike wrote:As far as I can remember, only the FuzzFace is +ve ground and that's so you can use PNPs...

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 4:27 pm
by Pens
Shad does have a point.