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Reverb suggestions

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:15 pm
by Ro S
I'm looking to get a reverb pedal.

Please can I have any suggestions and views about the following ones I identified:
  • Line 6 Verbzilla (or the M5 which includes it)
    Boss RV5
    Digitech Hardwire Reverb
    EHX Cathedral
    TC Hall of Fame
If you have experience or good knowledge of more than one that would be especially useful.

And are there any other pedals I should consider around a similar price point?

Note: No, I'm not paying the sort of money a Strymon or such requires, so please don't suggest that.

Thanks

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:16 pm
by Dave
Bheringer reverb machine - try the verbzilla for cheap!

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:18 pm
by benecol
The above, or buy one of the cheap M5s as detailed elsewhere in this very same thread.

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:26 pm
by sp3k
except for the tc and the hardwire, I've had all or those reverbs. The cathedral is the best, it does lots of sounds the other ones can't, but it's expensive, and I can live with the reverbs on the m5. I've tried the hardwire, and remember it being similar to the digiverb, wich is not bad, but for the price, you can't get better.
If I were you I would buy the behringer verbzilla copy, or the m5 for all the extra stuff. If money isn't an issue get the cathedral, I prefer it so the strymon reverb.

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:39 pm
by Ro S
Yep, I knew about the Behringer knock-off of the Verbzilla. Thanks though. The Behringer costs £40. If I want the Verbzilla type, I'd rather get the Line M5 (incl. verbzilla and one extra reverb mode I think) for £95 cos it has all the other stuff too.

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:24 pm
by Ro S
sp3k wrote:except for the tc and the hardwire, I've had all or those reverbs. The cathedral is the best, it does lots of sounds the other ones can't, but it's expensive, and I can live with the reverbs on the m5. I've tried the hardwire, and remember it being similar to the digiverb, wich is not bad, but for the price, you can't get better.
If I were you I would buy the behringer verbzilla copy, or the m5 for all the extra stuff. If money isn't an issue get the cathedral, I prefer it so the strymon reverb.
That's very helpful, thanks.

The EHX Cathedral is £140-£150 in UK. I admit I've been GASing for it for a while. Hmm...

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:51 pm
by StevePirates
Tally up another vote for the Cathedral. Although, the Supermoon demos floating around are really impressive too.

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:17 pm
by luciguci
It all depends on what you want.

I have the Hardwire Reverb and I think it sounds fucking excellent. It sounds extra lush in stereo too, especially Hall mode.
Plate mode is nice and resonant, reverse is excellent for playing MBV tunes, modulated is a bit weak in mono, but it sounds great in stereo, gated reverb sounds pretty great just before a cranked Turbo RAT, and the spring mode is very excellent and realistic. It's built like a tank, too, tougher than a Boss pedal. I recently got GAS for the Hardwire Tremolo/Rotary and Delay pedals based on how well the reverb is built and how great they (Trem and Delay pedals) sound.

Now here's my opinion for the reverbs I haven't had, but heard in demos: the Verbzilla (and the Behringer clone) sounds great too, the Cave and Space settings sound good enough for me to buy one based on those alone, but I've read that it sounds too good, almost synthy, which might be a turn off for some; the Boss RV5 honestly sounds kinda sterile and bland to me, and not nearly as good as the Hardwire (Lexicon algorithms!); the EHX Cathedral also sounds really good, and I wanted one once for the "Infinite" reverb sound and the tweakability with the pre-delay (which would be really useful when blasting it with distortion or fuzz) and the echo mode; I also wanted the TC Hall of Fame for a while too because the modulated reverb is thick and lush and a bit over the top, the tweakability with the TonePrint editor is also very enticing, and all of the reverbs are a bit over the top, which I really like.

TL;DR
(these are all opinions)
Hardwire = shoegazy and lush in stereo
Verbzilla = synthy, deep, and spacy
Boss = sterile and a bit bland
Cathedral = cool as hell and probably good for drones & with distortion
Hall of Fame = thick and lush, over the top, customizable

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:46 am
by moogmusic
Just to throw it out there, you can also pick up a nice, slightly old, rack reverb until for well cheap (I got a Lexicon MPX 100 off eBay for about £30) and many include a foot switch bypass which makes it essentially a large, annoyingly shaped pedal.

Re: Reverb suggestions

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:16 am
by weeping_moon
Boss rv-5 is great the modulation effect is super. The others on that pedal is ok not super.

Behringer dd400 i would say avoid. Didnt get 1 simple sound that i like. Anyway now for sale if anywone wants it for cheap?

Strymon is really a great pedal, but not for the price.

Re: Reverb suggestions

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:48 am
by luciguci
weeping_moon wrote:Behringer dd400 i would say avoid. Didnt get 1 simple sound that i like. Anyway now for sale if anywone wants it for cheap?
"This pedal is total shit, avoid. Anyone want to buy it?"

Logic.

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:11 pm
by BearBoy
Haha. Admire the honesty.

Re: Reverb suggestions

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:32 pm
by Concretebadger
weeping_moon wrote:Boss rv-5 is great the modulation effect is super. The others on that pedal is ok not super.
I agree that the modulate setting is very good - that's why I still use mine. The hall and room settings are nice if a little too bright, but the spring setting is useless. The EHX HG+ I used to own had hall/room settings that were warmer, and the spring mode was nearly as good as the real thing. If the Cathedral is similar in that regard, I'd say go for that one.

That said, it's REALLY hard to find a Cathedral in the UK for less than £150 so I know that problem all too well. I would've bought one already otherwise.

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:08 pm
by weeping_moon
BearBoy wrote:Haha. Admire the honesty.
Yes. Haha

Forgot its the delay pedal. But just buyed 1 behringer and wouldnt try more pedals from them.

Re: Reverb suggestions

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:10 pm
by weeping_moon
Concretebadger wrote:
weeping_moon wrote:Boss rv-5 is great the modulation effect is super. The others on that pedal is ok not super.
I agree that the modulate setting is very good - that's why I still use mine. The hall and room settings are nice if a little too bright, but the spring setting is useless. The EHX HG+ I used to own had hall/room settings that were warmer, and the spring mode was nearly as good as the real thing. If the Cathedral is similar in that regard, I'd say go for that one.

That said, it's REALLY hard to find a Cathedral in the UK for less than £150 so I know that problem all too well. I would've bought one already otherwise.
Yep.

I will come with more comments if i try another one.

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:31 pm
by luciguci
weeping_moon wrote: But just buyed 1 behringer and wouldnt try more pedals from them.
Well that's not a good reason. Just because you had one shit pedal doesn't mean you should discount all of them. I got the Boss PS-5 copy from them and it's better at pitch shifting than the Boss itself.

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:37 pm
by weeping_moon
Yeah but i dont like the plastic design as well.

I dont dislike all their products as pa systems and their cheap mixerboards.

But the pedals is just meeeeah for me.

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:53 pm
by luciguci
weeping_moon wrote:Yeah but i dont like the plastic design as well.

I dont dislike all their products as pa systems and their cheap mixerboards.

But the pedals is just meeeeah for me.
The plastic shouldn't matter, it doesn't affect the sound. As another shortscaler proved, they're pretty tough and can take a beating fairly well and still work afterwards. If the pitch shifter I got was in a metal case, it would have cost me 3 or 4 times more than it did, and I like that.

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:09 pm
by Ro S
There's plenty of very good Behringer pedals and they're very good value for money, especially second hand. The same can be said for Danelectro and other cheaper brands.

Anyway, we digress.

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:16 pm
by weeping_moon
Yes. So what is your question again? Go and buy the cheapest that you like.