I have recently been interested in getting a fuzz to use in a live setting (right now I am making due with stacking overdrives together) because I am tired of having very many pedals.
I have always been interested in a IC Muff (which I would gladly order from someone on here who makes pedals...) but now I am also very interested in the Death By Audio Fuzz War. I have no idea how close it is schematically to a IC Muff or what schematics the fuzz war pedal is even based off of.
This is one of the only demoes I can find that seem to be using single-coils:
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I am asking you fine folk if you have any experience with Death By Audio, and if one of their pedals is worth the 150 bucks it costs, or if it is better for me to just maybe pucker up, spend some more and get one of the more traditional Dwarfcraft pedals or a custom made similar fuzz from another maker on this board.
Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:59 pm
by Benmurray85
I really like the like of the DBA stuff although I could never pay those prices. If I could afford I'd get the supersonic fuzz gun
FWIW I've had three dwarfcraft pedals (SA, shiva and Internet. I had to trade the SA still have other two) and all I can say is that they are fucking MEGA! I'd never get rid. Unique, crazy, quality but most importantly fucking FUN!
Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:11 pm
by timhulio
Who's to say what anything is worth. The price of parts in any of these pedals is less than $20, but if what it does for you is worth $150, go for it.
Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:02 pm
by ekwatts
I have a clone of the DBA Supersonic Fuzzgun I got a friend to make me. It's good for what it is, which is mostly unusable fuzzy noise with some controls that can make a nice unpredictable synthy tone. I wouldn't pay those prices for it though as I only use it every now and again. The whole point with them is that they go a bit splatty and daft every now and again so they're not totally reliable. If that's what you want then that's fine.
I also have a Zvex Woolly Mammoth (made by my friend again) which is a different beast, but fairly versatile and reliable. Again.. not worth the $250 pricetag or whatever. But still very good.
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:43 am
by Lucamo
timhulio wrote:Who's to say what anything is worth. The price of parts in any of these pedals is less than $20, but if what it does for you is worth $150, go for it.
All of the truth.
It is all about trying it. Sometimes I just feel like their are certain pedals that exist on 'fleecing' you based off of namesake and brand. But I guess that is the exact same thing. IF that name is worth it go for it.
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:20 am
by jagsonic
timhulio wrote:Who's to say what anything is worth. The price of parts in any of these pedals is less than $20, but if what it does for you is worth $150, go for it.
It's hand-crafted. How long does it take to solder and craft it? If you want to work cost-covering, you should take 50-100$ per hour...
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:07 pm
by timhulio
Quite right. Guitar pedal builders are highly skilled, talented and sexually athletic types who should command six-figure salaries in the global marketplace.
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:28 pm
by Brandon W
timhulio wrote:Quite right. Guitar pedal builders are highly skilled, talented and sexually athletic types who should command six-figure salaries in the global marketplace.
HAHAHA! Nice! haha
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 1:56 pm
by laterallateral
Effect pedals retain their value fairly well and are easy to sell. If you end up not liking something for whatever reason, you can generally count on taking a $50 hit on it, which sounds pretty harsh but it's the cost of experimentation and it's better than having $150 tied into a pedal that you can't use or don't really like.
I guess what I'm saying is go for it and if it sucks, flip it and use the money to have Mike or Tim build you an IC fuzz.
$100 Bucks, which you could probably get back pretty easy on the flip.
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 4:07 pm
by h8mtv
timhulio wrote:Quite right. Guitar pedal builders are highly skilled, talented and sexually athletic types who should command six-figure salaries in the global marketplace.
Good for you, shitting on skilled labor.
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 4:12 pm
by ekwatts
h8mtv wrote:
timhulio wrote:Quite right. Guitar pedal builders are highly skilled, talented and sexually athletic types who should command six-figure salaries in the global marketplace.
Good for you, shitting on skilled labor.
His own skilled labour.
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:43 pm
by h8mtv
Shit on yourself and it spatters on the rest of us.
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 11:50 pm
by Mike
:ROLLYEYES:
Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:17 am
by robert(original)
if you are sitting over boards and wire sucking in fumes for 6-8 hours straight, your going to need that extra cash to pay your way thru treatment when your lungs give the ole heave-ho from all the tin/lead bullshit your breathing.
Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 1:28 pm
by timhulio
Can't say that isn't a worry. However I always use lead-free solder and work in a ventilated area. Working with leaded solder back in the day did have noticable effects on my nerves and caused headaches, so I switched pretty quick. I may invest in some sort of extractor fan in the near future, but I'm also getting to the stage when some of my populating work is outsourced. Assembly work isn't as time-consuming.