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they're right, that is a stupid deal

presumably nobody's buying them.

The Strat jack kinda ruins the overall look. It's like the guitar can't decide if it's a Jaguar or a Toronado or a Strat.

I think they were going for this vibe but stopped short. They should have just reissued these Toronados.


I want this one.

the neck is decent enough. i guess for three hundered you could part out the body and parts, keep the neck and you may get 200 or so for the body and hardware

I had a go with one and at the side of the Marauder it was awful. The sound was the biggest disappointment, P90's/mahogany usually works well together, even on budget guitars but it didn't with this Jaguar. Didn't feel too good to play either.

They are ugly as sin like. That Jack placement just looks terrible.

unless it is 12" radius, i'd buy it

taylornutt wrote:The Strat jack kinda ruins the overall look. It's like the guitar can't decide if it's a Jaguar or a Toronado or a Strat.

I think they were going for this vibe but stopped short. They should have just reissued these Toronados.


I want this one.

Agreed.

EHHHHHHHH... NO. 10 years ago, maybe but given the existence of the VM offsets... LOLNO!

the bridge on those toronados are really nice looking, i thought they had the standard TOM for the u.s. versions(thats what those are right?)

It's only the strat jack that fails the looks for me, otherwise I like it. I trust Fran's opinion on playbility though so do not want

i saw one of those used jags on GC website for about 249.99 and thought about getting it for the neck alone, if i remember right it was a burst body. i think with a guard(to cover up the strat jack) and a bigsby or some such trem upgrade they could be usable, but i have never had first hand interaction with one. i mean, i have seen one first hand in a store, but nothing about it was appealing enough for me to want to try it out.

Dave wrote:I trust Fran's opinion on playbility though so do not want

The one I tried may have been a duffer and it wasn't exactly set up well to be fair, but it was truly awful.

This from a thread on TDPRI. The guy put 2 mini pots in the Strat Jack hole. No other major mods. Maybe a blank Jag control plate would do it here. And a pickguard, maybe wouldn't be so bad

This guitar is kind of like Fender's response to a Gibson SG Special. I thought about buying one of these and putting a Bigsby vibrato on it. I think it would be pretty cool with a Bigsby. Maybe they'd sell better if Fender put a Bigsby on them. I never pulled the trigger on it because I already have a cherry Gibson SG with a Bigsby.

You could make a little scratchplate, maybe not exactly like the one on the Toronado but something like that.



The Strat jack plate hate is just stupid. I can understand someone not liking Strat pickups, Strat wiring, tailpiece, etc., but the jack plate? It's way better than the one on the Toronado because it doesn't push towards the floor when you are sitting on the floor. Or just get a black one if you don't like that it's chrome.

You guys hate it so much, here is what your version of hell looks like:

Yeah, it's a shame about the strat jack plate and lack of pickguard...those are the two things that make it look 'off' to me.

Otherwise, I wouldn't be surprised if it sounds and feels fine to play in comparison with the price. I wonder how hard it would actually be to fit a pickguard and relocate the jack?

It's back!

robert(original) wrote:the bridge on those toronados are really nice looking, i thought they had the standard TOM for the u.s. versions(thats what those are right?)

http://angela.com/fenderbridgetech-toni ... sonic.aspx

they don't hold up, though. google it for the complaints.