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EHX Soul Food (Klon-a-like)

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:53 pm
by BearBoy
EHX have announced a new pedal that's apparently their take on the Klon:

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EHX wrote:Tone aficionados kept telling EHX’s Mike Matthews about a pedal that had achieved a lot of buzz because it was only obtainable at an exorbitant price. That pedal was the KLON CENTAUR.
A believer in bringing great tools to starving musicians, Mike tasked his trusty team to create an affordable alternative, and that is how the SOUL FOOD was cooked up.

The SOUL FOOD delivers transparent overdrive with great touch and response. Its circuitry features boosted power rails to provide abundant headroom and increased definition. Best of all, you don’t have to be a rock star to own one!

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 2:14 am
by h8mtv
Saw that on the facebookzzz.

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 2:32 am
by Nick
Booooring.

Can't anyone get those tones with a decent tube amp and overdrive?

Why are we still making new pedals that do the same things?

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:03 pm
by BoringPostcards
Nick wrote:Booooring.

Can't anyone get those tones with a decent tube amp and overdrive?

Why are we still making new pedals that do the same things?
THIS.
And yes, you can get Klon tones from a decent tube amp and overdrive, even sometimes just the natural drive of the amp itself will get into that territory. Hype is hype, I guess.

Edit: I find my fulltone OCD comes VERY VERY close to this as well. Klon is all hype.

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:26 pm
by HNB
I don't know that it is all hype. While I don't have an official Klon, I have two clone pedals that use the same components and such and I really like them. I have a bunch of overdrive pedals as well that are good, but they are different than the Klon. I would never pay that huge price for one, but it is a nice pedal. I got mine in trades and such.

My tube amps are pretty loud, so turning them up to the point where they naturally overdrive isn't really realistic for my setup. Plus my favorite amps that I have are designed to go loud and clean. (Twin and Showman) I like the ability to play loud and clean, so I use pedals to color the sound when I need a little bit of dirt or distortion. My Klon is often just on so if I dig in a bit, it overdrives mildly or if I mess with my volume. My other overdrives are pretty much a stock level. Quiet playing is the same sound as loud playing, just volume changes vs amount of overdrive.

That is just my two cents. I really enjoy the pedal for what it does. :)

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 6:33 pm
by sholkham
Isn't it going to cause problems for them to say it's a Klon ,or version of the klon, in the release?

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 6:35 pm
by HNB
I don't think so. Klon isn't producing Centaurs. Hasn't been for a long time right?

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 6:42 pm
by tenderstems
HNB wrote:I don't think so. Klon isn't producing Centaurs. Hasn't been for a long time right?
They make them again.

http://www.axeandyoushallreceive.com/pr ... -overdrive

(looks like they are unavailable again though)

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 7:58 pm
by 71Smallbox
they're really having a go over this at TGP :lol: 10 pages worth already!

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:49 pm
by HNB
I don't know legal stuff well, but I imagine if they couldn't legally say it was a klon style pedal, they wouldn't. Maybe the name Klon isn't trademarked or something? Maybe if it was trademarked, it isn't currently?

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:03 pm
by Fran
Nick wrote:Booooring.

Can't anyone get those tones with a decent tube amp and overdrive?
This for me too.

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 2:41 am
by h8mtv
At this point the term Klon clone has been tossed around so much by so many..... I mean JHS made a Klon and had a centaur on the thing.

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 4:16 am
by aen
The bigger thing here is that EHX, a GIANT in the industry (with what? 40 years of innovation behind them?) is now ripping off a small time builder. And admitting to it as publicly as possible. Weak Sauce.

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 4:28 am
by HNB
No points for being upright about it? At least they didn't market this as something it isn't and pretend it was a brand new pedal they came up with. :)

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:13 am
by HNB
They didn't really say it was a clone either, just a good affordable alternative to a Klon Centaur.
A believer in bringing great tools to starving musicians, Mike tasked his trusty team to create an affordable alternative, and that is how the SOUL FOOD was cooked up.

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:56 am
by ekwatts
That's the way I took it, too. Huge business notices small business doing well out of something. What happens then? Capitalism.

Why does the Klon get all the props it gets? Because it's handmade, it's somewhat unique and so on. The mass-produced EHX version is allowing little Jimmy who goes to Guitar Center with his dad to buy a distortion pedal the chance to get something close to that sound, too. They're basically the same thing, but aimed at different ends of the market. The sort of people who buy boo-teek pedals will carry on buying boo-teek pedals.

I'd like to try the whole Klon thing, too, but I've never been comfortable spending £100+ on a distortion. To be honest, I'm not a fan of spending £50+ on a distortion. So I'd definitely be looking at it seriously if the price is decent. If I get hooked on it then who knows, I'll probably try a "proper" one. It doesn't strike me as being the same as the recent Danelectro Cool Cat rip-off controversy; this is a bit more obvious. They're owning up to the inspiration directly in the literature, so it's at least a bit more of an "honest" rip-off. No idea if that makes it any better. Probably not.

I doubt this is going to do anything to dent the mythology surrounding the original pedal. It might even add to it.

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:00 am
by BearBoy
ekwatts wrote:To be honest, I'm not a fan of spending £50+ on a distortion. So I'd definitely be looking at it seriously if the price is decent.
£49.99 at GAK.

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:44 am
by gusman2x
For low drive, a bog standard TS does the job more than adequately (for me). At lower drive, so much more of the TONEZ comes from your actual playing. It's higher gain sounds where the differentiation in pedals come in. I very much want to have a blast on one of the new minifoogers.

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:33 am
by Mike
From EHX this is pretty fucking random.

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:58 am
by Johno
aen wrote:The bigger thing here is that EHX, a GIANT in the industry (with what? 40 years of innovation behind them?) is now ripping off a small time builder. And admitting to it as publicly as possible. Weak Sauce.
& loads of 'small time/big time' builders make money building muffs or variants of.