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Staytrem Thimbles for Classic Players (+ New Drop In Bridge)

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:01 am
by BearBoy
Looks like Staytrem are now making replacement bridge thimbles so you can put a Staytrem bridge on a Classic Player Jaguar/Jazzmaster. Would possibly work on the Jaguarillo too?
Staytrem wrote:Classic Player Jaguars with Adjust-O-Matic bridge will require our conversion thimbles available from our Ebay shop.

Squier J Mascis conversion available soon.
Website LANK

eBay shop LANK

Comes with gubbins to extract existing thimbles too.

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:04 am
by BearBoy
Could get one of these:

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or these:

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And put a proper bridge on it.

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:27 am
by gusman2x
That's awesome. Wonder if the cp is the same as the kc mustang?

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:42 pm
by NickD
I wonder if it would work on the Squier J Mascis Jazzmaster too?

NM, I just looked at the link, it looks like they are coming soon.

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:04 pm
by impmann
I've just fitted a Mastery to my CP Jazzmaster using a pair of these - 100% recommended. The 'tool' for removing the old anchors is a long bolt that you just wind down into the hole, once this hits the wood it pushes out the anchor and the new thimble just pushes back in its place.

Its so blindingly simple, I can't believe no-one thought of making conversion thimbles before, tbh...

Oh and the result - perfection. Proper resonance in the body, proper ringing behind the bridge and no god-dammed rattles from that dreadful AOM (sorry, not a fan).

8)

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:44 pm
by Dave
I just dropped in a roller TOM that fit perfectly and made the trem an absolute dream to use. Cost about a tenner.

Small trivia fact: Mine was the first ever CP Jag to receive a Staytrem collet and arm, and I sent the existing collet to John at ST to look at the dimensions and thread types. It seems to be a strange combination of Imperial and Metric measurements and supports the idea that the plates and moving parts are AVRI.

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:23 pm
by Mike
Since when have they been available in those lovely colours?

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:37 pm
by BearBoy
They're FSR models. Think they've been out a while but not sure how widely available they are. Those are from GAK.

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 4:06 pm
by BearBoy
NickD wrote:I wonder if it would work on the Squier J Mascis Jazzmaster too?

NM, I just looked at the link, it looks like they are coming soon.
They're now available for the Squier JM JM: eBay shop LANK

More models to follow apparently.

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:56 pm
by honeyiscool
impmann wrote:I've just fitted a Mastery to my CP Jazzmaster using a pair of these - 100% recommended. The 'tool' for removing the old anchors is a long bolt that you just wind down into the hole, once this hits the wood it pushes out the anchor and the new thimble just pushes back in its place.

Its so blindingly simple, I can't believe no-one thought of making conversion thimbles before, tbh...

Oh and the result - perfection. Proper resonance in the body, proper ringing behind the bridge and no god-dammed rattles from that dreadful AOM (sorry, not a fan).

8)
I have a question. I have a MIM Jaguarillo that I've fitted with USA style Jaguar/Jazzmaster/Mustang thimbles. I just wrapped mine in some copper tape and I dropped it in, since the original holes are too large. It works fine, but cosmetically, there are a couple of issues, that the stock posts are recessed and so now the thimbles are very deeply embedded in the body, and the bridge has to be raised a lot. Also the posts leave a tiny opening that looks a bit off (although not a problem as you can barely see it). While this isn't a huge problem, I'd like to know for the future if this is still the case with these conversion thimbles. Do they drop right in, and are they a bit shallow than stock thimbles so that you can use sane bridge heights with them? Thanks. I'm looking forward to modding a Jaguar CP HH in the future, so this is very interesting info for me.

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 11:11 am
by BearBoy
There's a new Staytrem bridge especially for Classic Players, Jaguarillos etc. Looks like a straight drop in replacement so you don't need to mess about with swapping thimbles etc.

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LANK

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 11:47 am
by gusman2x
So, do CPers not have angled AOM bridges? I wanted to rid my KC Stang of the AOM, but it's angled, so thought that I may have a problem using a staytrem.

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:18 pm
by paul_
gusman2x wrote:So, do CPers not have angled AOM bridges? I wanted to rid my KC Stang of the AOM, but it's angled, so thought that I may have a problem using a staytrem.
It won't, just adjust intonation with the saddles. ABR-1 (vintage-style TOMs, where the saddles are held in with an arched retainer wire atop their adjustment screws) were always angled because they were so narrow the travel of the saddles wasn't always far enough for proper intonation without an angle, a design rooted in acoustic guitar saddles but largely erroneous after the advent of harmonica and nashville TOMs... a design feature that's decidedly here to stay with TOMs, though.

The bridge Bearboy posted looks like it uses the standard TOM posts so I'd go with that one. No good dicking about with thimbles that might sit proud against the trem plate because of offset holes, etc..