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New Deluxe Big Muff Pi

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 6:30 pm
by BearBoy
Just stumbled across this on the EHX website:

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EHX wrote:Long revered for its sweet singing tone and violin-like sustain, the classic three-knob Big Muff Pi has helped define the sound of rock guitar for over 40 years. Now, we’ve added some extras for those who crave more sound shaping control. Introducing the Deluxe Big Muff Pi. It delivers all the classic sounds of the original NYC Big Muff Pi, plus more.

Quick Specs

- Delivers all the classic sounds of the original NYC Big Muff Pi, plus extra features
- Foot-switchable MIDS Section helps you cut through when recording or playing live
- MIDS section features four controls so you can fine tune your midrange boost or cut
- Noise gate with adjustable Gate control eliminates noise and hum while preserving your attack and original tone
- Adjustable Attack control adds punch to your single notes and chords
- Switchable Bass Boost for added bottom when you want it
- Expression Pedal input lets you sweep the mids in real time
- True bypass for maximum signal path integrity
LANK

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 8:37 pm
by theshadowofseattle
Oh cool a Swollen Pickle with bass boost

Re: New Deluxe Big Muff Pi

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 8:38 pm
by theshadowofseattle
EHX wrote:- Expression Pedal input lets you sweep the mids in real time
that's dope as hell doe.

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 8:53 pm
by BearBoy
Dem sweepy mids.

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 9:06 pm
by Fran
I had one of the originals, made in 1980 around the time EHX closed down. It was a beast of a pedal, mains powered only, when my Marshall JCM blew up they blamed the EHX for overloading the circuit :lol:

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 9:32 pm
by taylornutt
Wasn't the original Deluxe based on the IC Big Muff? The advertising implies it will be based on the NYC version, which I assume is the current reissue.

Re: New Deluxe Big Muff Pi

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 9:50 pm
by Doog
theshadowofseattle wrote:
EHX wrote:- Expression Pedal input lets you sweep the mids in real time
that's dope as hell doe.
Why the fuck would you want to control mids on the fly??

Re: New Deluxe Big Muff Pi

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 9:51 pm
by theshadowofseattle
Doog wrote:
theshadowofseattle wrote:
EHX wrote:- Expression Pedal input lets you sweep the mids in real time
that's dope as hell doe.
Why the fuck would you want to control mids on the fly??
[youtube][/youtube]

Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 10:30 pm
by Fran
taylornutt wrote:Wasn't the original Deluxe based on the IC Big Muff?
Possibly, mine sounded nothing like any reissue.

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 7:00 pm
by theshadowofseattle
The original was just a Muff and a Soul Preacher crammed into one box, I thought.

Re: New Deluxe Big Muff Pi

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 1:05 pm
by Doog
theshadowofseattle wrote:
Doog wrote:
theshadowofseattle wrote: that's dope as hell doe.
Why the fuck would you want to control mids on the fly??
[youtube][/youtube]
Lolz

Mids != wah tonez

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 2:04 pm
by Mike
>>It delivers all the classic sounds of the original NYC Big Muff Pi

Suggests transistor rather than IC/Op-Amp Muff.

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Designed by Fran of Frantone by the way fact fans. Shame it's literally the worst muff circuit out of all of them.

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 3:06 pm
by taylornutt
J Mascis used to use the Deluxe Big Muff but it got stolen. Then he switched to the Rams Head after that.

Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 3:23 pm
by LaceSensor
mid sweep sounds pretty neat on the vid exh posted

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 10:52 am
by johnnyseven
There's a write on on Kitrae's site, with video.

Deluxe Big Muff

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:14 am
by Concretebadger
It's great to see EHX doing this and I have a lot of respect for Kit and his encyclopedic Muff knowledge, but from what I can tell it's still using the reissue's V9 circuit as a foundation...and I personally don't like the V9. Even if it has clever and useful extra controls, it's still a V9 circuit. The problems I had with the reissue - namely being muddy and inarticulate, rubbish for palm mutes, harsh and generally not very musical - would also be present in this too, surely?

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:22 am
by johnnyseven
Did you read the write up?

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:47 am
by Concretebadger
johnnyseven wrote:Did you read the write up?
Yes. It was a well-written and interesting read as always. Unless I interpreted it incorrectly though, this is essentially a V9 circuit with extra (albeit useful) controls. I'm just not convinced that the things I dislike about the V9 circuit can simply be dialled out with some tweaking. Even Kit admits that you can only get "80%" of the way to a different version. As a general rule - this doesn't just apply to Muffs - it's pointless trying to make one device sound exactly the same as something that's fundamentally different.

I'd like to be proved wrong though, because it doesn't sound like EHX are ever going to do a Triangle/Ram's Head reissue.

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:51 am
by theshadowofseattle
Concretebadger wrote:The problems I had with the reissue - namely being muddy and inarticulate, rubbish for palm mutes, harsh and generally not very musical - would also be present in this too, surely?
YO THAT'S THE BEST SHIT ABOUT THE REISSUES THO.

different strokes mang

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 1:51 pm
by johnnyseven
Concretebadger wrote:
johnnyseven wrote:Did you read the write up?
Yes. It was a well-written and interesting read as always. Unless I interpreted it incorrectly though, this is essentially a V9 circuit with extra (albeit useful) controls. I'm just not convinced that the things I dislike about the V9 circuit can simply be dialled out with some tweaking. Even Kit admits that you can only get "80%" of the way to a different version. As a general rule - this doesn't just apply to Muffs - it's pointless trying to make one device sound exactly the same as something that's fundamentally different.

I'd like to be proved wrong though, because it doesn't sound like EHX are ever going to do a Triangle/Ram's Head reissue.
I thought he said that he could get extremely close to some muffs and 80% close to others, but then I could have interpreted it wrong. Meaning that although it's based on a V9 it can be dialed in to sound very different.