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Andy Summers tone on a budget?
Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:41 pm
by Peter Bond
I have been tentatively asked to dep for a guitarist in a Police tribute band and I wondered firstly, how to get the same tones as on the likes of Message in a Bottle, Walking on the moon etc and secondly if there was a way to do it without spending too much.
I'd be using a tele and/or a strat into a deville 212 and I have an OCD for any drive needs and a Earthquaker Devices Ghost Echo reverb pedal but that's about as far as it goes. I was thinking maybe an EHX small clone into some kind of delay might get me a bit closer so I looked into the line 6 DL4 but at the moment its a bit out of my range price wise.
Any suggestions?
I haven't really set my questions out very clearly here but my mind is too tired at the moment.
Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:45 pm
by Noirie.
I'd suggest the Behringer Dyna Comp clone and the DMM clone. And maybe a Mooer CE-2 copy. That should be enough really and all kinda cheap.
Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:53 pm
by Peter Bond
Thanks, I'll check out some demos.
Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:36 pm
by johnnyseven
If you need a Boss CE2 sound you could try and pick up a Boss CE2B Bass Chorus which has the same circuit as a CE2 with, I think, 1 component difference and a blend knob - and they tend to be a fair bit cheaper.
For flanger, would a Boss BF2 cover Police tones? They can be picked up cheap and they sound ace.
Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:47 pm
by Progrockabuse
mooer elec lady, that would cop summer's electric mistress flanger tones.
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:47 am
by Fran
I read somewhere he swore by an old Ross Compression pedal. Makes sense when you consider he played clean a lot.
The CE-2 (or clone) is definitely essential.
Sounds an interesting appointment. Always wondered about that myself but I don't think I could cover all his chops, never mind find a local Copeland and someone with a voice like Sting.
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:42 am
by Peter Bond
Thanks for the replies all. A local shop has all the mooer stuff in so I might try them out this Saturday.
Fran wrote:Sounds an interesting appointment. Always wondered about that myself but I don't think I could cover all his chops, never mind find a local Copeland and someone with a voice like Sting.
The drummer plays in the jazz and blues orchestra that I'm in and when he approached me I thought "say yes now and shit yourself about actually being able to play the stuff later". He's a great drummer like. Have yet to meet the Sting.
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:15 am
by Fran
Peter Bond wrote:Thanks for the replies all. A local shop has all the mooer stuff in so I might try them out this Saturday.
Fran wrote:Sounds an interesting appointment. Always wondered about that myself but I don't think I could cover all his chops, never mind find a local Copeland and someone with a voice like Sting.
The drummer plays in the jazz and blues orchestra that I'm in and when he approached me I thought "say yes now and shit yourself about actually being able to play the stuff later". He's a great drummer like. Have yet to meet the Sting.
you could be onto something good then.
It's them add9 chords he played, 5 fret stretch and played quite quickly on message in a bottle. I can play them okay at home but it would be different on stage after a hours worth of it!
Good luck with it, keep us updated too.
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 8:00 am
by AaronGuitarDude
Joyo pedals.
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:49 am
by George
Fran wrote:I read somewhere he swore by an old Ross Compression pedal. Makes sense when you consider he played clean a lot.
The CE-2 (or clone) is definitely essential.
Sounds an interesting appointment. Always wondered about that myself but I don't think I could cover all his chops, never mind find a local Copeland and someone with a voice like Sting.
hes a bit like keith richards. seems simple enough and you can impersonate the style in a general way, but once you try to play it note for note you realise what crazy rhythms and timings they're doing, and it's actually really difficult to play
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:16 pm
by Ro S
I read the thread as Ann Summers
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:25 pm
by Ro S
Andy Summers in The Police used an early EHX Electric Mistress (not the Deluxe Elec Mistress) - a flanger; not a chorus pedal. That pedal can do chorus like sounds. It's a very musical flanger. Hartman do a very nice clone of it. Finding a flanger that can do chorus like effects and musically, is hard imo. If the Hartman is too dear, maybe look into some of the 1980s analogue flangers made by lesser-known Japanese companies - e.g. Yamaha; Tokai; Ibanez L-series.
p.s, Yes, some chorus pedals will get you in the territory though. Make sure you get an analogue chorus though. There are plenty of affordable Boss CE-2 knockoffs (e.g. Biyang/Akai/GFS; Joyo). I good, versatile modern analogue chorus is the Visual Sound Liquid Chorus.