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Classic Player series gets a makeover.

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:07 am
by BoringPostcards
Check it out. They "fixed" the CP series jazzmaster. I'm assuming they've done the same to the jaguar.
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Nitro finish, traditional vibrato position and a standard bridge. The pickups don't have screws for poles, so they're not the p90s that were in it before.
I like it.

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:16 am
by ekwatts
The trem move was a functional change that didn't make the slightest bit of aesthetic difference and fucking worked. Why the fuck would they change it back?

Oh, yeah. Nerds. Fucking nerds.

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:18 am
by BearBoy
*amber* s say the trem location has a MASSIVE affect on toan.

Must say I think that's probably bollocks.

Looks like it's effectively a MIM AVRI.

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:24 am
by timhulio
The Jag behind it has neck binding and a mute! Even the AVRIs didn't have a mute. Because it's pointless. Nice to see though.

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:29 am
by George
i think the break angle caused by the trem does affect tone is as much as a sharper angle increases sustain and bottom end, and helps keep strings from popping due to less compliance. probably marginal compared with the move from a hearty TOM to the floating style bridge though. that change will definitely decrease sustain and bottom end, but is part of that vintage sound.

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:50 am
by BearBoy
They've got the sherwood green JM Jag on their Instagram site too:

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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:53 am
by BearBoy
George wrote:i think the break angle caused by the trem does affect tone is as much as a sharper angle increases sustain and bottom end, and helps keep strings from popping due to less compliance. probably marginal compared with the move from a hearty TOM to the floating style bridge though. that change will definitely decrease sustain and bottom end, but is part of that vintage sound.
Agree it likely increases sustain but the *amber* s complain that it removes all the lovely overtones you get from string vibration behind the bridge. That's the bit I'm a little sceptical about.

Also agree that the bridge is probably the greater contributor to a change in sound.

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:57 am
by gusman2x
I like it too. A std jm basically. Should sit well between the vmjm and the avri. CIJs are great, but not always the easiest for people to find.

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:00 am
by theshadowofseattle
ekwatts wrote:The trem move was a functional change that didn't make the slightest bit of aesthetic difference and fucking worked. Why the fuck would they change it back?

Oh, yeah. Nerds. Fucking nerds.
THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:01 am
by George
yeah i dunno, i actually do think the further back the bridge the more metallic overtones you get (probably helped further by the vintage bridge), but i don't like that anyway.

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 12:35 pm
by robroe
WHERE IS THE FUCKING SEARCH BUTTON ON INSTAGRAM ?


FUCK THIS SHIT


IM IN HILARY'S THING ON THE COMPUTER HERE AND THERES NO FUCKING SEARCH BUTTON.

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 12:53 pm
by BearBoy
I searched google for Chicago Music Exchange Instagram and it brought them all up.

There's a silver face Vibrolux on there too.

And a few Teles, Strats and basses.

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 2:07 pm
by Nick
Well and good but ARE THE FRETS MEDIUM JUMBO?

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 2:43 pm
by robroe
weird fretboardz

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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 2:44 pm
by robroe
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 2:45 pm
by YuriK
They're kinda cool though

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 3:31 pm
by ekwatts
"Channel bound necks", that shit looks shit, yo.

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 4:23 pm
by Dillon
Cool. Wonder what the neck radius will be? And if they'll actually be MIM? Don't know of any MIM guitars with a nitro finish. But...
ekwatts wrote:"Channel bound necks", that shit looks shit, yo.
This. What an awful, and lazy, idea.
timhulio wrote:The Jag behind it has neck binding and a mute! Even the AVRIs didn't have a mute. Because it's pointless. Nice to see though.
They actually did have a mute in the early days IIRC. I can't seem to find a catalog from back then online, but somewhere I have an old Frontline magazine circa '98 or '99, and the AVRI Jag pictured in that one came with a mute.

Edit: This is from 2006, so I guess they did as recent as then. It's been so long since I've seen a brand new AVRI, though.

http://issuu.com/fender/docs/frontline_2006/60

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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 4:32 pm
by Nick
Call me when fender makes affordable jazzys with correct fret wire.

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 6:07 pm
by robroe
FUCK BIG FRETS