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Mustang Bridge On Squire VM Jaguar

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 2:53 pm
by nigel1
http://lubbockunplugged.blogspot.com/20 ... aguar.html

I'm not sure whether or not the addy pasted above will appear as an active link. If not, copy and paste into your browser. The pics there will detail the installation of a mustang bridge on a VM Jaguar, with neck/bridge radius discrepancy corrected, and another mod to control overtones and get a cleaner tone with more sustain.

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:33 pm
by dots
ha! looks a little strange, but the results are what matters, right?

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:45 pm
by 71Smallbox
Another option instead of the vintage radius Mustang bridge is the Warmoth Modified Bridge, link:
http://www.warmoth.com/Modified-Mustang ... 6C700.aspx
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The saddles are adjustable to the 9.5 radius of the Squier. Another cheaper option is to remove the Mustang Saddles from the bridge then put them on the original Squier bridge so that they'd be the correct radius. I don't know if that would work, it depends on whether the Squier bridges are metric or imperial.
If you are hung up on cosmetics like some people, another option to get rid of the buzzing and overtones is the Buzz Stop, link:
http://www.allparts.com/BP-0653-010-Bu ... p_986.html
I've never used one but people who have seem to think they work well.

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 1:03 pm
by jagsonic
I use a mustang bridge with two washers under the e-string saddles on my vm jag. Works very well...

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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 5:48 am
by Johnny Noir
i found this guy in ebay france: http://www.ebay.fr/itm/111465080154?_tr ... EBIDX%3AIT
mustang bridge with 9.5 radius
it fits perfect on my VM jazzmaster

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2015 5:00 am
by singlepup
dots wrote:ha! looks a little strange, but the results are what matters, right?
Yeah is anyone else trippin on that foam? I'm thinking shoulda bought a hardtail jaguar.

Or jagmaster

(preemptive defense of humbucker pickups)

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2015 5:06 am
by ultratwin
I gotta agree; things that make you go "hmm"...to be sure.

Rick Lubbock wrote:...adding a foam rubber "muff" behind the bridge to dampen unwanted overtones. This improved sustain and gave me clean tones. It does not interfere with vibrato action.
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That Muff!

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 11:24 pm
by nigel1
I rather like that muff. Muffs in general are not such bad things, as any muff diver could tell you, and apart from such considerations you must recall that vintage Jags came equipped with a muff on the other side of the bridge, so that the strings could be dampened completely. What purpose that served I don't know. But I recall that the vintage Jags I owned had muffs that had deteriorated so badly, they were gooey and sticky. I plan to replace the muff on my Jag with a new one before it shows signs of aging. I have humbucking PUs on three of my current guitars and this muffed Jag has a tone that is absolutely unique. You'll just have to try it to see how well it works.

Re: That Muff!

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 6:48 pm
by paul_
nigel1 wrote:you must recall that vintage Jags came equipped with a muff on the other side of the bridge, so that the strings could be dampened completely. What purpose that served I don't know. .
The idea was not that it dampened them completely, but gave a sort of palm-mute sound which aided tremolo-picked lead and rhythm single-note lines in west coast surf music. The Jaguar was a revision of the Jazzmaster more implicitly aimed at the surf guitar demographic the Jazzmaster had won favor with (rather than the genre it was named after). To that end, they did what any self-respecting Californian of the time would've done: named it after a fast car and stuck chrome all over it.

Unfortunately it does nudge you slightly sharp, being further forward than a palm-muting hand generally would be. Gretsch had similar ideas implemented on some of the Chet Atkinsy/George Harrisonish models like the Country Gentleman and Tennessean, albeit a more primitive/easily breakable version of the idea with a lot more going on under the hood.

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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 7:30 pm
by Fakir Mustache
ultratwin wrote:I gotta agree; things that make you go "hmm"...to be sure.

Rick Lubbock wrote:...adding a foam rubber "muff" behind the bridge to dampen unwanted overtones. This improved sustain and gave me clean tones. It does not interfere with vibrato action.
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I think by "clean" tones he means without overtones. No comment about the sustain.