Please help me find a guitar...

mountain2012 · Post by **mountain2012** » Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:01 pm

I'm looking for a 24-inch scale, set-neck, angled headstock, solid-body electric. Anybody know of one?

Addam · Post by **Addam** » Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:14 pm

Sounds like you want a Gibson, I doubt you'd feel the 1/2" difference.

dezb1 · Post by **dezb1** » Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:21 pm

Addam wrote:I doubt you'd feel the 1/2" difference.

Insert innuendo here -

George · Post by **George** » Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:28 pm

Gibsons are .75" longer. Personally I definitely notice the difference between 24" and 24.75", but you're going to struggle finding something with the specs you're after anyway.

timhulio · Post by **timhulio** » Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:25 pm

24" scale is a pretty tall order, luckily...

mountain2012 · Post by **mountain2012** » Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:03 pm

timhulio wrote:24" scale is a pretty tall order, luckily...

I can't believe the neck width is 47mm on the Brian Mays while most guitars are 42-43mm!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Special

Noirie. · Post by **Noirie.** » Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:25 pm

Harley Benton do a Red Special copy for cheaps.

George · Post by **George** » Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:52 pm

i've secretly wanted a red special for years

Addam · Post by **Addam** » Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:01 pm

George wrote:Gibsons are .75" longer. Personally I definitely notice the difference between 24" and 24.75", but you're going to struggle finding something with the specs you're after anyway.

From what I've read on the internet (Gibson forums) vintage-spec Gibsons were advertised as 24.75" but measure up as 24.5" and modern Epiphones measure up at 24.75". I haven't measured any Gibsons or Epiphones myself, so I might be regurgitating bullshit.

Either way, 24" vs 24.75", the difference in distance between from nut to 1st fret would be 0.042" or a gnats knacker over 1mm.
Are you going to notice that difference while playing? I don't.

Addam · Post by **Addam** » Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:06 pm

Noirie. wrote:Harley Benton do a Red Special copy for cheaps.

Found that on thormann.de

mountain2012 · Post by **mountain2012** » Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:44 pm

Addam wrote:
George wrote:Either way, 24" vs 24.75", the difference in distance between from nut to 1st fret would be 0.042" or a gnats knacker over 1mm.
Are you going to notice that difference while playing? I don't.
Yes, absolutely. When you play hours a day, small differences like that are huge. It's like having a piece of a popcorn kernel stuck in your teeth. It's a small piece of popcorn, but in the universe of your mouth it feels pretty damn big.

timhulio · Post by **timhulio** » Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:25 pm

So there you are. There is one guitar which matches your specs.

Ankhanu · Post by **Ankhanu** » Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:13 pm

mountain2012 wrote:
George wrote:Either way, 24" vs 24.75", the difference in distance between from nut to 1st fret would be 0.042" or a gnats knacker over 1mm.
Are you going to notice that difference while playing? I don't.
Yes, absolutely. When you play hours a day, small differences like that are huge. It's like having a piece of a popcorn kernel stuck in your teeth. It's a small piece of popcorn, but in the universe of your mouth it feels pretty damn big.

Nah. A 10" difference barely registers for me anymore, switching between my Jaguar, Strat, Tele, VI and Jazz Bass all the time. You notice it at first, but your brain and fingers adapt.

mountain2012 · Post by **mountain2012** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 4:34 am

Ankhanu wrote:Nah. A 10" difference barely registers for me anymore, switching between my Jaguar, Strat, Tele, VI and Jazz Bass all the time. You notice it at first, but your brain and fingers adapt.

You guys must be blessed with big phalanges. A 24-inch scale guitar is the difference between me using my ring finger and pinky to fret the distance of two frets compared to a 24.75" scale guitar. That's how short my fingers are.

And before anyone says, "look at those kids on youtube, they are playing a full-size guitar with tiny hands!", I'm not a kid and don't have the coordination and dexterity they do.

timhulio wrote:So there you are. There is one guitar which matches your specs.

Thank you. Think I'm going to save money to commission a luthier for a custom guitar. That 47mm neck width on the red special is a little too formidable

timhulio · Post by **timhulio** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:52 am

Disappointed:

ekwatts · Post by **ekwatts** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:12 am

You just made Brian so mad that he went and kicked a badger in the face, then stamped on a fox, right on his spine.

Addam · Post by **Addam** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:31 am

mountain2012 wrote:
Ankhanu wrote:Nah. A 10" difference barely registers for me anymore, switching between my Jaguar, Strat, Tele, VI and Jazz Bass all the time. You notice it at first, but your brain and fingers adapt.
You guys must be blessed with big phalanges. A 24-inch scale guitar is the difference between me using my ring finger and pinky to fret the distance of two frets compared to a 24.75" scale guitar. That's how short my fingers are.

I'm with Ankhanu on this, I can do chords on a 34" bass but it's a bit of a stretch for me (though chords on bass sound wrong to me).
I don't really notice scale length that much, I feel differences is string tension though.
My hands aren't particularly large; thumb tip to pinky tip is a hair over 9". My Dad does have big hands; his pinky finger is as thick as my thumb!

mountain2012 wrote:That 47mm neck width on the red special is a little too formidable

The Harley Benton version had a 42mm nut.

timhulio · Post by **timhulio** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:39 am

I'll bet the Harley Benton version is 24 3/4" scale though. There's no way they'd retool for a single model.

Addam · Post by **Addam** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:44 am

timhulio wrote:I'll bet the Harley Benton version is 24 3/4" scale though. There's no way they'd retool for a single model.

635mm scale, or 25"

Josh · Post by **Josh** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:59 pm

Get a little ass silvertone 1448. I can fret up like 5 notes with that thing. I use it in my 2 piece band so I can do big note changes easy. The neck is fucking tiny.