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Swinger (Sven / Cooterfinger)
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 5:40 pm
by DasBeef
So back in Oct 2012 I won a Swinger body from Sven (made by Cooterfinger) when he did a little competition for members who voted on something. Since then I have been sitting on it waiting to get a short scale neck. I finally scored a replacement Jaguar neck, B&B that I want to fit on it. I'm awaiting a response from my guitar guy (who I'm going to get to do most of the work), but the neck is a little fat for the neck pocket. Is this normal? Should I have the neck pocket widened? Or the neck thinned down? Or have I down right bought the wrong neck for this body? (I'm super novice at this. Please be gentle)
Also I'd like the classic bridge on this like the Musicmasters and Swingers had. Any idea where to get one at a reasonable price? EU preferable.
And how the hell do I know which tuners to buy?
Anyway, any pointers or advice welcome. I'm hoping to turn this into an awesome guitar.
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:06 pm
by Nick
If it's just a little off, my guess is the homemade body probably was made on the side of caution for fitment. Easier to sand out a too-snug neck pocket than it is to replace wood if there's a gap. Also an unfinished body will be more prone to shrinking or expanding slightly with humidity changes so keep that in mind.
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 7:23 pm
by jcyphe
Where did you get that neck?
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 8:08 pm
by cooter
If it's really close then just sand equally on each side of the neck pocket until it slides down into place.
Necks have standard heel sizes but they don't take into account for the finish on a neck. Some finishes are thicker than others.
My Swinger neck pock templates were made from an original 22.5" scale Fender neck. The heel could be slightly narrower.
If you could get some up close pics I might be able to help a little better.
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:24 pm
by finboy
jcyphe wrote:Where did you get that neck?
This, would love to get one
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 10:08 pm
by Nick
Also as for color vote I'd go for something less often done, like inca silver or burgandy mist.
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 10:52 pm
by Brandon W
oh that's gonna be rad!
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 12:11 am
by DasBeef
jcyphe wrote:Where did you get that neck?
eBay
cooterfinger wrote:If it's really close then just sand equally on each side of the neck pocket until it slides down into place.
Necks have standard heel sizes but they don't take into account for the finish on a neck. Some finishes are thicker than others.
My Swinger neck pock templates were made from an original 22.5" scale Fender neck. The heel could be slightly narrower.
If you could get some up close pics I might be able to help a little better.
So it seems large by a couple of mm. Probably two or three. What pics exactly, and how would you like them done?
Currently the neck does not fit in the pocket plain and simple.
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 12:25 am
by DasBeef
Also my guitar guy has go back to me with a possible matching headstock if that sways anyones colour choice. The Burgundy Mist call is great!
Thanks for the replies so far. Really hoping to make this the best it can be.
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:18 am
by cooter
DasBeef wrote:cooterfinger wrote:If it's really close then just sand equally on each side of the neck pocket until it slides down into place.
Necks have standard heel sizes but they don't take into account for the finish on a neck. Some finishes are thicker than others.
My Swinger neck pock templates were made from an original 22.5" scale Fender neck. The heel could be slightly narrower.
If you could get some up close pics I might be able to help a little better.
So it seems large by a couple of mm. Probably two or three. What pics exactly, and how would you like them done?
Currently the neck does not fit in the pocket plain and simple.
If it's that much the neck pocket should probably be routed wider. Wish you were stateside so I could fix it for you. It wouldn't take 5 minutes.
But shipping it here wouldn't be feasible.
You might check with Addam.
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 9:46 am
by NickS
To me it's not a Swinger without a pointy head.
Mine:
But maybe yours will have that "Pawn Shop" vibe.
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 3:43 pm
by speedfish
NickS wrote:To me it's not a Swinger without a pointy head.
Mine:
But maybe yours will have that "Pawn Shop" vibe.
I wanted to vote for shell pink, but I voted sonic blue instead because you put it up there twice. I figured that color must be speaking to you. I love the blocks! Is your guitar guy going to reshape the head stock like NickS pic?
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:18 pm
by DasBeef
speedfish wrote:NickS wrote:To me it's not a Swinger without a pointy head.
Mine:
But maybe yours will have that "Pawn Shop" vibe.
I wanted to vote for shell pink, but I voted sonic blue instead because you put it up there twice. I figured that color must be speaking to you. I love the blocks! Is your guitar guy going to reshape the head stock like NickS pic?
My preference is actually pink, green then brown. I'm sort of leaning toward pink. Not going to reshape the headstock. Might move the neck to another guitar one day. Just keen to get this up and running.
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:03 pm
by DasBeef
Anyone any idea where I could get machine heads that look period correct for this in the UK?
I got a set of 6 in a row Klusons with the plastic, but they don't fit.
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:35 pm
by Nick
Are the bushings just too small for the holes? They sell conversion bushings, if that's what the problem is I'd search for those.
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:58 pm
by DasBeef
The 6 in a row is too short. Just doesn't line up. Think I need 6 individuals.
Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 7:41 pm
by DasBeef
I think I now have everything to make this happen. Time to get in touch with my guitar guy, and to make this happen....
Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 10:58 pm
by singlepup
What kind of bridge did you end up with? Looks like a Toronado?
Posted: Tue May 10, 2016 12:43 am
by hotrodperlmutter
did you get the neck pocket sorted?
Posted: Tue May 10, 2016 7:51 am
by BearBoy
Did you settle on a colour?