I love my excelsior but the guitar player in my band Adam just got a Mustang V head and brought it over to play out of my COUGAR 1000 1x12 cab.
it sounded fucking great. like really fucking loud and creamy and when i turned my amp up to get with it, it was totally farting out.
these heads are 149 used. it seems like a really good fucking deal for how good it sounded.
150 watts. 75 left 75 right. i just had it plugged in right and it was still loud as fuck
i have a mustang 1 combo and its fun to fuck around with upstairs and make space sondz but this fuckin thing .....
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:58 am
by Nick
You probably can't beat that for the price if it sounds good, especially if you already have a cab situation.
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:15 am
by singlepup
Buy it. Also, you're in a band? When did that happen?
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:30 am
by sunshiner
Your amp sounds like poop because it's a 12 - 15 watt amp that sounds best at 50-80% of it's maximum volume and you need to crank it up to the max to compete with other louder amp
I only briefly played a smaller combo version of Mustang and while I liked it I generally don't like modelling amps/processor. Don't you have a bigger solid state amp too? Try to compare Mustang to it. If you like Mustang better get a Mustang. I'd go with a used Peavey Bandit, but again I'd buy it to use with pedals and pedals don't work well with modelling amps like Mustang
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:10 am
by jagsonic
I have an excelsior and a mustang III. Just don't know which i like better. Playing in my band, i like more the mustang for his loudness and versability. Mustangs are just fine amps.
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:44 pm
by Bacchus
There probably are better amps to think about than the Excelsior.
I'm not sure about the Mustangs. Everyone has good things to say about them, my only experience is the few that we had in school and they broke in no time at all.
There might be other amps to consider. Although I suppose, if it sounds good, then fuck it, go for it.
EDIT: I think it was the Mustang I amps we had. And the abuse they get in a classroom is probably an unfair way to judge them. At the same time, I like to think that this is a useful way to judge how roadworthy amps are. A year in a classroom is probably equivalent to ten years of normal use.
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:04 pm
by robroe
I put my mustang 1 inside an big old 1950s radio cabinet I found on the side of the road. I run my turntable into a pre-amp, in ton the aux in Jack on the mustang, bought the foot switch for it that I run out from under the radio cabinet so the amp is totally out of sight.
The way it's used I have 2 channel guitar clean/dirty at one set volume on the amp and I can dial up the turntable volume with the pre-amp.
So all the fancy modeling bullshit with it doesn't even get used because the entire amp is buried inside this massive radio cabinet.
But it sounds great with the records so I keep using it in this fashion
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:14 pm
by jagsonic
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:27 pm
by George
I have one of the Mustang heads. It doesn't really push sound in a big bassy way like tubes will, but it sounds fucking great and the amount of settings you can fiddle with is insane.
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:31 pm
by Nick
George wrote:I have one of these. It doesn't really push sound in a big bassy way like tubes will, but it sounds fucking great.
tubes = bass? Sounds like mojo arrows my man.
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:32 pm
by George
Not getting into this. Established fact that big ass tube amp output transformers sound big and more bassy than digital. See ya
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:49 pm
by Nick
That's silly but ok.
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:15 am
by sunshiner
singlepup wrote: Also, you're in a band? When did that happen?
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 4:19 am
by robroe
ohh yeah sorry.
so back before my Son was born in 2010 me and some guys from work would get together and jam in his basement.
over about 6 months of saturday practices and had about 10 songs worked out.
This video was taken 2 days before Liam was born. It was the last time we all played together.
fast forward 8 years my kids are old enough now to tell them to go chill out upstairs with head phones on for 2 hours while dad fucks up shit in the basement.
guitar player were in immediately. bass player Nate moved to Austin.
Love playing with guitar player Adam. we bounce ideas off each other really well. he's into like tom petty covers n shit and i try to bring the rock out in him.
so same dudes. looking for bass player.
excuse the shit audio its a 2010 cell phone recording a band with like 10 practices playing 15 minutes of original tunes
our band is called THE GOAT. obviously.
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 4:24 am
by robroe
bass player nate is really really good and kinda has to dumb down what he's used to to play with us.
he used to be in this band here called Clearmotive
FFO of screamo stuff im not into.
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:13 am
by NickS
George wrote:Not getting into this. Established "fact" that big ass tube amp output transformers sound big and more bassy than digital. See ya
The amount of power you can get out of a transformer depends on the amount of iron in your output transformer core and frequency, which is why bass output transformers need to be bigger to extend the rated power down to the low end. A balanced solid-state output stage can theoretically go down to DC (as used in servo amplifiers) which transformer-output amps can't so it isn't that tube amps are intrinsically bassier; there must be other factors at play if that is your experience.
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:53 am
by George
NickS wrote:
George wrote:Not getting into this. Established "fact" that big ass tube amp output transformers sound big and more bassy than digital. See ya
The amount of power you can get out of a transformer depends on the amount of iron in your output transformer core and frequency, which is why bass output transformers need to be bigger to extend the rated power down to the low end. A balanced solid-state output stage can theoretically go down to DC (as used in servo amplifiers) which transformer-output amps can't so it isn't that tube amps are intrinsically bassier; there must be other factors at play if that is your experience.
Yes, the key factor is the digital guitar amps available on the market.
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:36 am
by Fran
I don't get why you need 150 watts to play in a basement Rob? Y'all will have tinnitus within six months.
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:30 pm
by robroe
Lol I've had tinnitus since I was like 15
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:08 pm
by luciguci
yeah rob wants to get mega tinnitus just let him achieve his dream
