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New free guitar day...

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:17 pm
by dezb1
Was given this today by a guy I work with, says he's had it since about 1989/90 anyone know where these were made?

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Set neck, nice finish actually feels like an ok guitar haven't plugged it in as the output jack is gubbed.

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:44 pm
by lorez
What make? Made me think not a Columbus make a load of people I grew up with had and at the same time he bought it

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:00 pm
by Bacchus
I remember Stagg using that bronze logo plate thing in about 2004. Maybe they'd been doing it since the 80s, but I reckon your mate's mixed something up.

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:22 pm
by Fran
Aye it's a Stagg.

They were originally a Japanese guitar company from the late 70's/early 80's but like Paul says, that bronze screw on logo is from the reincarnation of Stagg, most probably Chinese.
Could be wrong though, companies like Cimar used screw on logos.

The later version are okay budget guitars, a bit like Westfield. Decent chassis but might need some hardware/electronic upgrades.

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:31 pm
by Bacchus
Didn't stagg used to come with Wilkinson parts and pickups? I remember them being decent if undesirable guitars.

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:26 am
by dezb1
Bacchus wrote:I remember Stagg using that bronze logo plate thing in about 2004. Maybe they'd been doing it since the 80s, but I reckon your mate's mixed something up.
I did think it was later myself but I never paid stagg much attention so wasn't sure, he said he had it before his daughter was born though n she's 27 so mid 90s

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:29 am
by Bacchus
They could well have been doing that plate thing since the 90s I suppose. I only really started hanging around the one guitar shop in Derry in about 2002 and my exposure to guitars was whatever they stocked.

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:54 am
by dezb1
Posted it over at the my les paul forum they seem to think it's about epiphone level in terms of quality - I still haven't fixed the wiring so can't comment on the sound but it plays better than my sister in-laws epiphone (but I really don't like the neck on her guitar).

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 5:43 pm
by dezb1
Got it cleaned, restrung, oiled the fretboard, and rewired, the pickups are microphonic as fuck... Going to tune it F#F#F#F#E B and play some Sonic Youth... cause it's a Kool thing. I actually like the totally tarnished gold hardware.

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Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:47 am
by sunshiner
Nice. Looks very new wave to me

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:30 pm
by NickS
dezb1 wrote:Got it cleaned, restrung, oiled the fretboard, and rewired, the pickups are microphonic as fuck...
Wax...

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:53 pm
by paul_
Yeah, you can wax pot pickups with paraffin on the stove. EVH did it to a '50s Gibson PAF effectively and he doesn't even know how to wire a selector switch.

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It's funny now that all those wholesale import pickups and stuff are everywhere for $10-$40, I often wonder about the cost effectiveness of even something cheap and hardware-store-y like wax potting the pickups (or refinishing a Strat/Tele body) in an old import guitar versus buying ridiculously cheap ones that'll sound as good as a nicer Epiphone. I got a pair of cheapo cream buckers from China on eBay (because DiMarzio have trademarked double cream open-coils and getting that look is expensive) and they didn't disappoint in any way.

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:38 am
by sunshiner
Cost price of making pickups is figuratively pennies, for last couple of decades companies and individuals made tons of money selling handwired mojo. Though for sure a certain skill goes into finding sweet combination of all the components, but really you just wind your pickups to 6.5-7.0 kOhms, use alnico magnets and for the most part you cover 80-90% of the requested mojo vibes. Chinese pickups nowadays are made like that and cost a couple of bucks.