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PEAL GEEKS: wierd pedal guts Q

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 2:14 am
by aen
So i took apart my DOD analog delay (cause it shat out on me, but i got a DMM to replace it) in the hope sof seeing some obvious loose solder i could fix and have my fave analog delay back. But i got it all out of the box and there's a red wire coming off the input jack and a black wire coming off the output jack that go NOWHERE. Not even any exposed metal on the wire, just bizarre extra wire.

WTF mates?

Re: PEAL GEEKS: wierd pedal guts Q

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 2:43 am
by Tex-czech
aen wrote: Not even any exposed metal on the wire, just bizarre extra wire.
At the tip of the wire where the insulation starts? Its where a solder joint has broken on the circuit board. Maybe it was a cold joint (didn't bond/connect well). Look for points on the circuit board were a wire could have broken off.


does it turn on just no effect?

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:21 am
by Doog

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:45 pm
by Pens
The input jack one is very likely the POWER wire. That is why it is dead. That wire goes to the power jack. The black wire is likely a ground, which should be ok since it is grounding via the casing also. Take an post pics of the input jack, wire, and power jack and I'll show you how to fix it.

EDIT: Does this make me a peal geek?

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:06 pm
by euan
PenPen do you use the casing as ground? I'll ground the casing but I really don't like to use the case as the common ground.

I always wonder if people use the case because those Switchcraft jacks are not isolated like the Cliff style ones that I use.

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:20 pm
by Pens
euan wrote:PenPen do you use the casing as ground? I'll ground the casing but I really don't like to use the case as the common ground.

I always wonder if people use the case because those Switchcraft jacks are not isolated like the Cliff style ones that I use.
I use metal jacks and metal cases so I will ground the output jack through the casing in order to prevent loops. The input ground still goes to board, it's just the output jack that grounds throught the case. Several makers do this including Boss.

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:31 pm
by euan
Yeah I know that. I just feel a bit dirty at doing. But I'm weird.

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:34 pm
by Pens
I admit it frustrated the hell out of me once when I had a Boss pedal apart trying to find a broken solder joint, thought i found it and fixed, hooked up the leads to test before putting it back in the box, and spent another 45 minutes trying to figure out why it wasn't making any sound 'fore I realized the output wasn't grounded. But the reasoning makes sense.

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:54 pm
by aen
well, this is hwy you dont examine your pedal sin the dark.

The mystery black able was coming form the plastiic boxy thing that has lots of wires coming out. The red one cocmes from the input jack and goes to nothing. When i took it out of the case and plugge dit in, i only got an absurd buzz and the led lit up, so it must be case gorunded. This shit is WAAAAAAY out of my league, I'll probably just put it in a box and give it away some day.

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:55 pm
by Pens
Send it to me. Are you in the US?

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:11 pm
by aen
U bet. YOu think you could fix it?

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:17 pm
by Pens
I am 95% sure I can fix it. The 5% is if I get really drunk and bury it under my sidewalk. I'll PM my addy.