marshall DSL401
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marshall DSL401
so, after nearly 11 years of playing I've decided to bite the bullet and get myself a tube amp; yep, all this time ive been a solid-state man (i should get kicked out of the guitarists union or something)
Currently i play a Marshall Valvestate VS100R, so the DSL401 seems like an obvious upgrade path, as it's 1) cheap (under £400), 2) low volume (it'll be for bedroom use) and 3) has all the same controls/channels as my current marshall. Except all tube!
so, anyway thoughts / opinions /soundclips on the DSL401? I'm especially looking at you here mike..
Thanks in advance!
Currently i play a Marshall Valvestate VS100R, so the DSL401 seems like an obvious upgrade path, as it's 1) cheap (under £400), 2) low volume (it'll be for bedroom use) and 3) has all the same controls/channels as my current marshall. Except all tube!
so, anyway thoughts / opinions /soundclips on the DSL401? I'm especially looking at you here mike..
Thanks in advance!
- Mike
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I liked mine when I had it, but I discovered I'll always be a head and cab kinda guy, I'm just used to the extra umpf you get, plus I've been spoiled by having a 3 channel amp..
Aaaanywho - if you remind me I can upload the stuff I did with my DSL401 later, I have a few samples kicking around.
Overall I liked it, it was a great amp and they hold their value well. Some plus and minus points:
Pluses
- very cheap in the UK for what it is
- amazing clean channel, that takes pedals really really well
- nice spring reverb
- plenty loud for small/medium gigs but sounds great at low volumes too
- Can get a wide range of overdriven tones, from light crunch to full bore Marshall roar
- Portable, relatively light
- Holds value EXTREMELY well - I sold mine second hand for £25 less than it was new
Minuses
- Overdrive channel a little bass light, voiced in the midrange for a lead tone - can be remedied by putting an EQ set for bass boost in the FX loop and using the Mix control as a Bass control
- Slightly buzzy tone to the Overdrive up the dial, get a £10 12DW7 valve to clear this up and leave the clean channel unaffected
- Slightly slow channel switching - although yuo can get used to the slight delay from clean to drive
- Stock speaker not the best - I reckon this would benefit greatly from a warmer driver like a Vintage30
Overall though I'm not sure you can beat it in the Uk for price and sounds.
Aaaanywho - if you remind me I can upload the stuff I did with my DSL401 later, I have a few samples kicking around.
Overall I liked it, it was a great amp and they hold their value well. Some plus and minus points:
Pluses
- very cheap in the UK for what it is
- amazing clean channel, that takes pedals really really well
- nice spring reverb
- plenty loud for small/medium gigs but sounds great at low volumes too
- Can get a wide range of overdriven tones, from light crunch to full bore Marshall roar
- Portable, relatively light
- Holds value EXTREMELY well - I sold mine second hand for £25 less than it was new
Minuses
- Overdrive channel a little bass light, voiced in the midrange for a lead tone - can be remedied by putting an EQ set for bass boost in the FX loop and using the Mix control as a Bass control
- Slightly buzzy tone to the Overdrive up the dial, get a £10 12DW7 valve to clear this up and leave the clean channel unaffected
- Slightly slow channel switching - although yuo can get used to the slight delay from clean to drive
- Stock speaker not the best - I reckon this would benefit greatly from a warmer driver like a Vintage30
Overall though I'm not sure you can beat it in the Uk for price and sounds.
thanks Mike, knew you'd come through!
I too like the punchiness of a cab, but it's just not realistic for a bedroom player like myself. The DSL401 looks like a really small portable amp.
The shared EQ isn't too much of a probably, nor is the thin voicing of the OD1 channel - cos my valvestate also suffers from both of these "features". I use the OD1 on my current marshall as the clean channel, with gain on 2 - it just sounds great!
You can get this amp for £380 brand new now - how much did you pay?
Also one final thing - i noticed you've owned a Marshall 6100 head? I was looking at the 6100lm / 6101lm as it's the amp Placebo use for all their stuff - i wonder how the 3 channels compare to the DSL401, voicing wise?
ta!
I too like the punchiness of a cab, but it's just not realistic for a bedroom player like myself. The DSL401 looks like a really small portable amp.
The shared EQ isn't too much of a probably, nor is the thin voicing of the OD1 channel - cos my valvestate also suffers from both of these "features". I use the OD1 on my current marshall as the clean channel, with gain on 2 - it just sounds great!
You can get this amp for £380 brand new now - how much did you pay?
Also one final thing - i noticed you've owned a Marshall 6100 head? I was looking at the 6100lm / 6101lm as it's the amp Placebo use for all their stuff - i wonder how the 3 channels compare to the DSL401, voicing wise?
ta!
argh, just noticed OD1 and OD2 share a volume/gain as well...bummer. The TSL601 is closer to my valvestate.
oh well, guess that's what pedals are for!
EDIT: ooh, also just noticed marshall used to do a Marshall DSL201, which only has the clean channel and OD2.
Might have to look for that baby on ebay..
oh well, guess that's what pedals are for!
EDIT: ooh, also just noticed marshall used to do a Marshall DSL201, which only has the clean channel and OD2.
Might have to look for that baby on ebay..
- Mike
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The OD1 and OD2 do share a volume gain, the difference is just a 20dB attentuation of OD2 to form OD1, basically I used to use OD2 with gain at around 9'o clock as it's the true open sound of the channel which was a good medium/high overdrive, OD1 I didn't really use all that much. You're right that it's thinner.
I paid £389 for mine and sold it on ebay for £365. Not bad eh?
I still own teh 6100 yeah, I love it. The DSL401 can do a passable impression of the crunch sounds I like about the 6100, or the higher gain Lead channel, obviously not exatcly the same as it's EL84s vs. EL34s but not bad at all - particularly after you upgrade V2 to a 12DW7.
The DSL401 has a more midrange chimey tone Aka Vox AC30 but far more versatile wheras the 6100 is more variable seeing as it has a prescence control and different gain structures.
Gareth has a TSL601 which is not a bad amp but very expensive. With all these amps dime the Master you get your power tubes cooking and keep the channel volumes lower and you'll be laughing.
I paid £389 for mine and sold it on ebay for £365. Not bad eh?
I still own teh 6100 yeah, I love it. The DSL401 can do a passable impression of the crunch sounds I like about the 6100, or the higher gain Lead channel, obviously not exatcly the same as it's EL84s vs. EL34s but not bad at all - particularly after you upgrade V2 to a 12DW7.
The DSL401 has a more midrange chimey tone Aka Vox AC30 but far more versatile wheras the 6100 is more variable seeing as it has a prescence control and different gain structures.
Gareth has a TSL601 which is not a bad amp but very expensive. With all these amps dime the Master you get your power tubes cooking and keep the channel volumes lower and you'll be laughing.
- Fran
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Mikes description is good. I've used one for two years, for the following reasons...
1/ easily portable
2/ loud enough for most pubs and bigger venues you would mic up through the PA anyway.
3/ classic o/d and distortion sounds available at low volume and up full
The clean settings are a matter of taste but i rarely play clean anyway.
If you want an amp that is bedroom friendly but will go with you to the next level of rehearsing and gigs, the DSL401 is a winner.
Heres mine:
1/ easily portable
2/ loud enough for most pubs and bigger venues you would mic up through the PA anyway.
3/ classic o/d and distortion sounds available at low volume and up full
The clean settings are a matter of taste but i rarely play clean anyway.
If you want an amp that is bedroom friendly but will go with you to the next level of rehearsing and gigs, the DSL401 is a winner.
Heres mine: