it's the "lead mod" LM version as well...that Placebo use. quite rare now.
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:30 pm
by Mike
Lead Mod is better as it focusses the Lead Channel more. Apparently mine is a 6100 that was sent to Marshall by the previous owner to have the LM performed and to be switched to EL34s.
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:32 pm
by aphasiac
Mike wrote:lol.. most people get all stupid about there being lots of knobs on Marshalls like the 6100 and the JVM. As far as I'm concerned independent EQs is a good thing.
oh yeh, the more tweakable the better.
in fact i don't see any point of a seperate channel WITHOUT a seperate EQ - you're never gonna get a perfect balance of sound between em if they share EQ, always some sort of compromise.
oh yeh, how well does the "low volume compensation" button work on your 6100? Does it make it sound good when running the head at 25W??
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:42 pm
by Mike
It makes the whole head sounds more balanced in the bass end at low volumes, regardless of what output level you had it set to.
To be honest I have it set at Full Power, Pentode all the time because the clean headroom and added THUNK of a 100W amp is useful even at low volumes. Also you're not going to notice a massive difference between 100W and 50W - there is only a 3dB difference as the power stage is pretty clean.
I use the compensation below 4 on the Master, above 4 the amp doesn't need it. I keep the channels at arond 5 and have the Master at 4 for practise and 6-7 for gigs. Chunky.
You can get a great sound out of that amp at any volume.
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:50 pm
by dots
that's the reason i'm hesitant to ditch the tsl in favor of the jvm. i'm waiting on your clips and review before i make such plans.
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:53 pm
by Mike
I will be quick and thorough.
When I played it at a shop it sounded pretty great at all volumes. But noisy shop vs. home and practise and gig is a big thing.
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:24 pm
by dots
Mike wrote:I will be quick and thorough.
When I played it at a shop it sounded pretty great at all volumes. But noisy shop vs. home and practise and gig is a big thing.
very true. there's also that adrenaline surge at the store and the first week or so at home that tends to cloud the judgement. we speak the same language here, though.
you've played through a tsl before?
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:27 pm
by Mike
dots wrote:
Mike wrote:I will be quick and thorough.
When I played it at a shop it sounded pretty great at all volumes. But noisy shop vs. home and practise and gig is a big thing.
very true. there's also that adrenaline surge at the store and the first week or so at home that tends to cloud the judgement. we speak the same language here, though.
you've played through a tsl before?
yeah I borrowed a TSL100 head at a gig once and I've heard them live plenty too. Gareth has a TSL601 combo which has the guts of the TSL60 head. I like them, but they're a little edgier in the mids than I like and the Crunch Channel isn't as much "grin on your face good" as the one on my 6100. The JVM nails it in 2 of the Crunch modes and OD1 modes.
The TSL bothered me most on switching. Slow and volume droppy on channel switch which irritated me. plus the footpedals are junk.
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:30 pm
by dots
good, so you have a reference point. do you know if the t00bs in that one were jj's? i have to say that made the tsl go from a good amp to a great amp instantly. and i also noticed the switching snafu's disappeared once i stopped using marshall's shitty switch. hopefully those jvm jobs are built better.
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:32 pm
by Mike
All accounts have pointed to much better switching and a love of the versatility of the system. Assigning channel presets of individual buttons to the switches is genius.
The TSL I just found fizzy, I found myself dialing the gain down to nine o clock and compensating with channel volume, as gain high would introduce the fizzle - this left the amp sounding slightly reined in though. I dunno abuot tubes, I was just dialing and playing.
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:37 pm
by dots
gotcha. . . i don't even dial my gains much past 6 on any of the channels. . . usually they cruise between 4 and 6, depending on my mood or the guitar i'm playing. i like my overdrive to be maybe 2 notches above ac/dc and 2 below metallica on kill 'em all.
That does sound sweet. Lots to play around with when you get it!
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 4:19 pm
by Mike
Rivers back when he had taste and style and played a 6100
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 5:45 pm
by theshadowofseattle
Play Ben Likes Fat Chicks.
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 5:54 pm
by Doog
Mike wrote:Rivers back when he had taste and style and played a 6100
Although he looks like Velma.
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 6:22 pm
by gary
Doog wrote:
Mike wrote:Rivers back when he had taste and style and played a 6100
Although he looks like Velma.
He does, good performance though. His solo tone was sick... seriously underrated guitar player. Him and Tim Wheeler from Ash - they have the chops but cos they're pop-rock bands no-one really comments on it.
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:28 pm
by paul_
rivers is just another Corgan... ex-metalhead swaps chops for introspective songwriting practice, only to bitch after his 15 minutes are up, about how great a guitarist he was in the midst of his contemporaries.
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:30 pm
by Mike
BACK ON TOPIC
I'm not sure whether he still uses the 6100. Anyway you can hear on that clip how ace it sounds at a festival. so there.