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why?

would your switch you string guage because a report said it would improve your sustain by 3.46 x 10^-34 or something.

Here's a scientific report: Having used heavy strings and light strings on the smae guitar, in the same room, with the same amp settings, I can conclude that heavy strings offer more sustain. This experiment ahs been repeated any number of times.

Reece wrote:why?

would your switch you string guage because a report said it would improve your sustain by 3.46 x 10^-34 or something.

No, I'm just curious. I don't care about sustain tbh, most important to me is how the strings feel.

BacchusPaul wrote:Here's a scientific report: Having used heavy strings and light strings on the smae guitar, in the same room, with the same amp settings, I can conclude that heavy strings offer more sustain. This experiment ahs been repeated any number of times.

Here's my experience: lighter gauge gives more sustain on bass strings and less on treble, and vice versa with heavier gauge.

blacktaxi wrote:

BacchusPaul wrote:Here's a scientific report: Having used heavy strings and light strings on the smae guitar, in the same room, with the same amp settings, I can conclude that heavy strings offer more sustain. This experiment ahs been repeated any number of times.

Here's my experience: lighter gauge gives more sustain on bass strings and less on treble, and vice versa with heavier gauge.

Try it again. There is no science to support that conclusion.

Malik wrote:

blacktaxi wrote: Here's my experience: lighter gauge gives more sustain on bass strings and less on treble, and vice versa with heavier gauge.

Try it again. There is no science to support that conclusion.

I didn't see any science yet.

My report was scientific.

Do I have to break out the science?

Here's the science: Momentum.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Momentum

Increased Mass = increased Force/Energy, which will take longer to dissipate as Sound, Friction and a tiny amount of Heat.

Mike wrote:Do I have to break out the science?

Here's the science: Momentum.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Momentum

Increased Mass = increased Force/Energy, which will take longer to dissipate as Sound, Friction and a tiny amount of Heat.

This doesn't take into account different tension of different string gauges, and tension also affects sustain.

Yes, in a constructive way also.

Tension creates more potential energy when the string is plucked, which again leads to more momentum, energy and sustain. Basically you're completely wrong, sorry.

Mike wrote:Yes, in a constructive way also.

Tension creates more potential energy when the string is plucked, which again leads to more momentum, energy and sustain. Basically you're completely wrong, sorry.

You don't have to be sorry, I'm just trying to understand how this works and proving anything is not my goal.

Anyway... How I imagine this, is the more tension the string is subjected to, the more force is applied to return string to a relieved state - when it's dead straight and silent. Then, heavier gauge strings need more tension to reach proper pitch, and this means the force that makes them stop moving is greater than the one of lighter gauge strings.

edit: typo.

There is more force on the string due to the added tension, but this increased force married to the increased mass of the string creates more momentum in the vibration of the string, causing it to vibrate longer, although obviously there is an upper limit, a railway spike isn't going to vibrate. However within reason this increased tension also creates a more rigid pivot point for the vibration to occur around at bridge and nut, and thus less energy is wasted in friction at heat at this point, and conserved in the momentum (vibration).

Mike wrote:There is more force on the string due to the added tension, but this increased force married to the increased mass of the string creates more momentum in the vibration of the string, causing it to vibrate longer, although obviously there is an upper limit, a railway spike isn't going to vibrate. However within reason this increased tension also creates a more rigid pivot point for the vibration to occur around at bridge and nut, and thus less energy is wasted in friction at heat at this point, and conserved in the momentum (vibration).

This sounds right, but still wound be fun to know what exact is the upper limit! While more mass directly increases momentum, more tension dampens the string's vibration, and I believe there's a point in the string gauge scale where these two values equally affect sustain, and above which tension's infuence on vibration fade time increases, up to the point where the rail spike is.

Has this project been started yet?




Just asking.

No, lack of money means I can't get parts yet

bump for no guitar

did you order/buy the jagstang body from warmoth yet?

Haze wrote:did you order/buy the jagstang body from warmoth yet?

Making the body....which brings me onto another point: Where can I get a big guitar sized slap of mahogany here in the UK?

mcconnachiea wrote:

Haze wrote:did you order/buy the jagstang body from warmoth yet?

Making the body....which brings me onto another point: Where can I get a big guitar sized slap of mahogany here in the UK?

HOLY SHIT YESTERDAY YOU WERE BUYING WARMOTH

WTF DUDE JUST STOP. PLEASE.

new fucking thread called this dude sucks. sort yer shit mate