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Picking up a '72 Tele Deluxe Today - Caps & Pups

Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 8:24 pm
by Chicago Mike
I'm picking up a beat '72 Tele Deluxe today and was curious if anyone has had changed out their caps or pickups. I've read where people have swaped tvalues but haven't figured out the general rule of thumb.

Does anyone have a general explination of cap values and their desired effect?

**Not sure if this is the prorper area for this topic. **

Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 10:18 pm
by Mages
what people usually change is the pots. mike swears by the 1megs.

Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 11:10 pm
by Will
Higher value caps roll off more treble, lower values roll off less. So if it's too bright, you could increase the value of the cap or vice-versa.

Higher value pots prevent more signal from reaching ground, so the sound is brighter and louder.

Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 11:39 pm
by Chicago Mike
Awesome, thanks!

I'm gonna order some 1meg pots from Torres and I've got to address some noise issue with it too. Guessing it might be grounding or something with the input jack.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 12:22 am
by jcyphe
What pickups could you change them with anyways besides Vintage ones?

Please don't go and drop a bunch of money on cuntfire Offset mojo arrows.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 1:03 am
by DGNR8
LOL WUT?

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 12:26 pm
by Chicago Mike
I don't know, just thought there might be some alternatives out there. Definitely not originals!

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 12:38 pm
by Sublimedo
stock deluxe pups are great already! Don't change em.

In fact, I wish I could change all of my humbuckers to deluxe pups.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 12:45 pm
by Mike
Agreed. Fine pickups, if you find them dark then up the pots. As always it's a good idea to suck it and see and see whether it works for you before pulling out the soldering iron.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 1:29 pm
by Chicago Mike
I actually do like the pickups but they're both a bit too muddy (espically the neck). They sounded really good but just not enough clairty.

I'm going to try changing out the Pots, but I have a question: Do you need to switch out all the pots to 1met or just the volume knobs?

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 1:34 pm
by Mike
All will give you the most pronouced effect but volume only will still change things.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 1:39 pm
by Chicago Mike
Right on, thanks a lot. It's a pretty solid guitar, it's gonna take some time getting used the chunky neck but I like it.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 2:12 pm
by Chicago Mike
Does changing the caps have an affect on sounds/tone?

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 2:18 pm
by Reece
mike, you get your pots from smallbear do you not? ima change the pots in the jazzy to 1M at some point rather than try replacing the pups.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 2:23 pm
by avj
Just to whip out my experience here, I replaced all the stock pots with 500k after finding the stock 250k a bit dark and flabby and 1M a little bright. There are two .022uF caps on the tone pots, but I left those as-is.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 2:25 pm
by Mike
Reece wrote:mike, you get your pots from smallbear do you not? ima change the pots in the jazzy to 1M at some point rather than try replacing the pups.
SmallBear or Banzaieffects.de. Or Musikding.

Reminds me, I'm off to the warehouse to get some parts.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 2:37 pm
by Chicago Mike
avj wrote:Just to whip out my experience here, I replaced all the stock pots with 500k after finding the stock 250k a bit dark and flabby and 1M a little bright. There are two .022uF caps on the tone pots, but I left those as-is.
Yeah, this might be my path as well but I want to try the 1meg first and fall back to the 500 if needed.

Thanks for the input.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 5:46 pm
by Richard
((nopics))

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 5:50 pm
by Chicago Mike
I'll get some up this week after practice.

Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 12:49 am
by Mages
Chicago Mike wrote:Does changing the caps have an affect on sounds/tone?
great article about caps and how they can effect the tone