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Revol guitar sound

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 4:10 pm
by johnnyseven
Anyone know what effect or effects the guitars in Revol by Manic Street Preachers uses? Chorus, flanger, tremolo, all 3 or something else? I love the wobbliness of the guitars in this song, it a sound that can be heard on alot of the songs on this record.

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:04 pm
by Noirie.
I read somewhere that JDB used a tiny Zoom multi fx for the effects on the album. It's all chorus, phaser and weird tremolo effects.

He used a Boss BF-2 for the live shows. I could get those sounds easily on my Boss BF-2 with all the dials set at 12.

Revol is also in open G tuning.

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:10 pm
by johnnyseven
Thanks. I knew he had a BF2 on his board, also a Super Chorus but wasn't sure which one gave this effect. I have an HF2 and CE5 but neither seem to do it. A mate is going to lend me his BF2 so i'll see how close I can recreate it. It not just the sound on this song I like, similar wobbly sounds can be heard all over the record, there also some obvious sweeping flanged sounds so I assumed his BF2 was being used.

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:13 pm
by Doog
http://www.repeatfanzine.co.uk/intervie ... 0silva.htm
..and I think all of the effects on the whole album came from a ‘Zoom’ micro-pocket guitar processor, which is like a tiny guitar processor that fits on a guitar strap. I’m not sure exactly if that’s the effect that you’re talking about, but I know there were a few vocals that we also processed through this guitar processor, which was basically all or nothing, regarding the depth of the effect. So that might have been like a chorus effect from a ‘Zoom’ effects processor.
Looks like it may well be the Zoom 9002: http://www.zoom.co.jp/english/history/02.php

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:48 pm
by Dingus
Doog wrote:Looks like it may well be the Zoom 9002: http://www.zoom.co.jp/english/history/02.php
Agreed, they also did a "Special Edition" version of the 9002 (can't find release date, only this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dl ... 0829136128) and a Pro version (released in July 1994). Since the album came out in August '94, I doubt they used the Pro version. The original 9002 came out in Fall of '89 per your article.

Additionally they did an "Artist Edition" version of the Pro, which would have to be at least July 1994 as well (http://www.randycuffe.com/9002.html).

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:00 pm
by johnnyseven
Thanks, my google searches didn't unearth this piece of info.

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:47 pm
by dezb1
Been listening to 'the holy bible' constantly for the last couple of weeks.

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:57 pm
by Mike
Seriously incredible album

Quite peerless guitar playing and sounds

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:03 pm
by Doog
Dead good, nothing else I've ever heard from MSP compares in any way.

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:14 pm
by johnnyseven
Some of the songs from the Generation Terrorists era are decent.

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:15 am
by dezb1
The bibe is their best (and should have been their last as everything after that was like what the foo fighters are to nirvana, or wings to the Beatles), but I'm a big fan of their first 3 albums, 'generation terrorist' had 'you love us' one of my all time favorite songs (and the reason I started playing the guitar). 'gold against the soul' had some class tunes:
"From Despair to Where"  
"La Tristesse Durera (Scream to a Sigh)"  
"Life Becoming a Landslide"  
"Roses in the Hospital"  

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:36 pm
by rps-10
Still have my 9002 and it still works! Has some bonkers effects in there especially for the time.

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:29 pm
by Noisy Cat
My favourite band of all time; seen them live 38 times since 1996.

Whole thread on JDB's gear through the ages here.

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:36 pm
by johnnyseven
Looks like it was a Boss CH1 that he would have used live for these sounds, maybe i'll seek out an old analog version.

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:16 pm
by JohnnyTheBoy
Motown Junk does it for me everytime....first track I heard by them, and first time I caught them on Snub Tv..love the interview by them.. 8)

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:26 pm
by Noirie.
johnnyseven wrote:Looks like it was a Boss CH1 that he would have used live for these sounds, maybe i'll seek out an old analog version.
Nope BF-2. If you look hard enough you'll see it in this video. I think he's using a wah aswell but I'm not sure.
[youtube][/youtube]

Also there's tits and a Jonny Greenwood lookalike.

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 9:29 pm
by dezb1
Noirie. wrote:
johnnyseven wrote:Looks like it was a Boss CH1 that he would have used live for these sounds, maybe i'll seek out an old analog version.
Nope BF-2. If you look hard enough you'll see it in this video. I think he's using a wah aswell but I'm not sure.
[youtube][/youtube]

Also there's tits.

Tits and flange in the one post...